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Mr.Twisty
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Post subject: New Diamond Puzzle?? Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 4:24 pm |
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Joined: Fri Jun 29, 2001 10:09 am Location: Great State of Washington
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I was recently sent these pictures. Does anyone have or know anything about this puzzle? How it works, where to get it? I am trying to find out more information.
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pelley
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 4:31 pm |
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Joined: Mon Oct 18, 2004 11:06 pm Location: Waterville, ME
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That looks a lot like a shaved Masterball.
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Mr.Twisty
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 4:35 pm |
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Joined: Fri Jun 29, 2001 10:09 am Location: Great State of Washington
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I can't tell if it twists in the middle like a ufo
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Noah
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 4:36 pm |
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pelley wrote: That looks a lot like a shaved Masterball. That's the first thing that came to my mind. Is each slice one or two pieces though?
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Mr.Twisty
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 4:39 pm |
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Joined: Fri Jun 29, 2001 10:09 am Location: Great State of Washington
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I just received a message saying that it has 16 pieces. I do not know the mechanism. Now if I could just make a deal and get one of these 
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Sam
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 4:40 pm |
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Joined: Mon Jul 02, 2007 10:46 pm Location: Princeton, NJ
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Noah
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 4:41 pm |
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Mr.Twisty wrote: I just received a message saying that it has 16 pieces. I do not know the mechanism. Now if I could just make a deal and get one of these  Technically it's the exact same as a "Masterball Cube", like the one p|astic made.
Did they mention if it was produced, or custom made?
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KKM3
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 4:41 pm |
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Joined: Sun Dec 02, 2007 8:15 pm Location: United States-California
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It looked kind of like a folding puzzle at first glance. But, then it looked like a masterball.
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juanan
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 4:45 pm |
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Joined: Sun Sep 18, 2005 3:03 pm Location: Madrid -Spain -Europe
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where do you get this pictures?
it´s the real name DIAMOND PUZZLE?
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Darren Grewe
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 4:58 pm |
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Joined: Sat Apr 22, 2000 2:51 am Location: New Ulm, Minnesota, USA
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It looks like a 2 layer shaped Masterball. Boy do I want one badly. Dodd could you please find out more information on this lovely puzzle on how to buy one?
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Mr.Twisty
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 5:00 pm |
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Joined: Fri Jun 29, 2001 10:09 am Location: Great State of Washington
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I don't know the real name of the puzzle. It appears to be a produced puzzle and not a custom, but I am not positve. Once I find out more I will share more info. Can't disclose my source just yet. I want to make an offer first 
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Noah
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 5:05 pm |
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Joined: Sun Jun 04, 2006 10:05 am Location: Eastern Michigan University (Minnesota at heart)
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Does your source have just one, or more of said puzzle?
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Mr.Twisty
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 5:09 pm |
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Joined: Fri Jun 29, 2001 10:09 am Location: Great State of Washington
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Seems like I have found a mystery puzzle that has generated lots of questions  Just be patient and I will try and find out lots of info. I don't know how much my source knows but I am trying to get as much info as I can.
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 5:14 pm |
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It definitly twists in the middle like a UFO. If it has 16 peices, you can count that there are 8 on the top layer. That of course means that there are two layers
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juanan
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 5:17 pm |
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Joined: Sun Sep 18, 2005 3:03 pm Location: Madrid -Spain -Europe
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looks like not a twisty puzzle

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Jin H Kim
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 5:19 pm |
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Joined: Tue Oct 09, 2001 6:14 am Location: Orange County, CA, USA
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Sam
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 5:22 pm |
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Joined: Mon Jul 02, 2007 10:46 pm Location: Princeton, NJ
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Jin H Kim
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 5:29 pm |
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Joined: Tue Oct 09, 2001 6:14 am Location: Orange County, CA, USA
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hehe I know nothing beyond what I've seen. But 8 polar wedges that have been cut in half at the equator? That describes the Rainbowmaster Masterball almost exactly, minus the extra cuts. Bandage one up and you have what you see in the picture.
I'm going to guess it's a fairly large puzzle, since you have to bandage directly over the Masterball's pieces. There really isn't any room to "shave down" a Masterball since the pieces of a Masterball are colored tiles "floating" over the surface of the internal sphere.
The other nice thing you can do that you can't easily do with a Masterball is to anchor one of the "wedges" to the internal mechanism, thus preventing the internal mechanism from becoming misaligned with the tiles on the surface.
I should say that my opinion is based on the assumption that this is a custom puzzle. If it's a production puzzle then it could be any size and the mechanism could be something else entirely. But it suuuure does smack of a Masterball as others have noted.
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 5:36 pm |
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Is it just me, or do the two pictures appear to be two different puzzles?
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Jin H Kim
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 5:44 pm |
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Joined: Tue Oct 09, 2001 6:14 am Location: Orange County, CA, USA
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Mr.Twisty
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 6:19 pm |
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Joined: Fri Jun 29, 2001 10:09 am Location: Great State of Washington
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Hopefully it is not like the OC cubes and we will be waiting 3+ years for it to come out. New puzzles are always worth the wait, I just don't like waiting. 
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Aleksey
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 6:32 pm |
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Joined: Mon Sep 09, 2002 2:19 pm Location: Yaroslavl, Russia and Maryland, USA
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Forgive me for asking this, but... Are you sure it's not a magnetic puzzle?
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patrickcondon
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 6:43 pm |
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Joined: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:23 am Location: massachusetts, USA
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Hmmm... I doubt it. Mabye with 90 degree turns it could chande shape!
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Mr.Twisty
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 6:50 pm |
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Joined: Fri Jun 29, 2001 10:09 am Location: Great State of Washington
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Quote: Are you sure it's not a magnetic puzzle?
I hope not. That would really ruin my day  I have a magnetic dino and that is enough magnetic puzzles for me  I would really like to see a picture of it scrambled.
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Jin H Kim
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 6:58 pm |
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Joined: Tue Oct 09, 2001 6:14 am Location: Orange County, CA, USA
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If it could scramble after a 90 degree turn that would be amazing, but would require a pretty challenging internal mechanism.
Unfortunately I really don't expect much beyond a bandaged Masterball. But then again I am somewhat of a pessimist.
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flaakinator
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:36 pm |
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Jin H Kim wrote: If it could scramble after a 90 degree turn that would be amazing, but would require a pretty challenging internal mechanism.
That would be very kool.
I also first thought of the functionality being a truncated/shaved 2-layer rainbow masterball. The mechanism could either be a masterball or magnetic though. Masterball would be much easier to do.
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Spongeharry
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 6:52 am |
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Joined: Sun Sep 26, 2004 8:04 am Location: exeter,england
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Hi All,it looks a lot like a folding puzzle I bought in a junk shop a couple of years ago.I can't remember the name at the moment but I will look in my puzzle puzzle box and post in a couple of days with name of puzzle,manufacturer and Inventor,Harry.
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Spongeharry
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 6:56 am |
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Joined: Sun Sep 26, 2004 8:04 am Location: exeter,england
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Hi All,after looking in my puzzle-box I found it.It is as shown earlier in the post by Mr.Twisty so here come the details-
1-It is called a Triamint
2-It was invented by Klaus D.Pfeffer and Distributed by Toyamont Gmbh
3-The E.U Patent number is #051787
4-The puzzle itself is made of 16 multi-coloured Isoceles Tetrahedrons which are connected to each other by fabric
5-It is not a twistypuzzle and has no saving graces other than collecting
,Harry.
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juanan
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 7:26 am |
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Georges
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 7:38 am |
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Joined: Wed Dec 29, 2004 7:57 am Location: Στο Κάστρο του Αγίου Γεωργίου
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Stefan Pochmann
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 9:31 am |
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Last summer a friend of mine and I saw one on a flea market. I didn't want it since I didn't consider it a twisty puzzle, she didn't want to pay the 1 Euro the seller asked for (she tried to get it for 50 cents).
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perfredlund
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 10:17 am |
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Hi
From the picture alone one cannot tell if the puzzle flips through all planes like a masterball or ufo, or if it behaves more like a logi-vip.
In either case one may rotate the layers to simulate free flips on all planes.
Seems to be a better handling puzzle than the ufo. There are also far more solutions as the upper color permutation is free and the lower just have to follow the upper
-Per
I should read ALL posts first, it's a folding puzzle Twisty version can be made of course (modding a ufo??)
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Noah
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:46 am |
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Interesting. My girlfriend would really enjoy this puzzle. I have something similar to this that is a cube shape (3 colors) that on the outside looks like an edges only, no centers cube. If flips and folds in the same manner, and it can even create a rhombic dodecahedron when turned inside out. I'm not sure of the name of it though.
Georges, where did you purchase yours?
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Georges
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:59 am |
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Noah
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 12:22 pm |
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I'd like to point out this.
Identical movement to the Astrolabacus. 
_________________ Fridrich 3x3 PB 22.63 3x3 Av 30.57
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Mr.Twisty
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 12:31 pm |
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Man, I thought I found a new cool puzzle.  Oh well, I am still hoping to get some other pictures to find out for sure what this puzzle is. Probably after Christmas. I will let you know if I find out anything else. I haven't received any replies lately to my questions so who knows.
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Noah
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 12:36 pm |
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Look at the bright side, you found something that made us think of a interesting new mod.
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Georges
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 12:59 pm |
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Mr.Twisty wrote: Man, I thought I found a new cool puzzle.  Oh well, I am still hoping to get some other pictures to find out for sure what this puzzle is. Probably after Christmas. I will let you know if I find out anything else. I haven't received any replies lately to my questions so who knows.
Although you didn't find a new cool puzzle, you found a new cool plaything for me.
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Tony Fisher
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 1:13 pm |
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Noah
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 1:32 pm |
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Just out of curiosity Tony, would that be yourself?
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Tony Fisher
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 1:44 pm |
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Darren Grewe
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 5:28 pm |
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Tony Fisher wrote: I hadn't planned on it but I guess it's a possibility for the future. I am sure someone will beat me to it though.
Can you say  Cha-Ching  . I love puzzles that have nice bright rainbow plastic colors.
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Georges
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 5:01 am |
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A size comparison between the plaything and a Rubik's Cube.
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Sam
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 2:00 pm |
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Georges
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 3:49 pm |
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Blackmetalcubist wrote: is that a make-shift super cube Georges...lol  nice.
Yeah, someone at MIT designed it in the early 80's. I don't remember his name for the moment. This is my favorite everyday cube.
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Mr.Twisty
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 5:30 pm |
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I got one if someone wants it. $35 + $5 shipping in the USA Ships after Christmas  PM if interested.
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Georges
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:08 am |
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Mine has a different packaging 
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