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 Post subject: Impossible?
PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 6:48 pm 
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Is this really a puzzle or only a strange art object?
http://i3.ebayimg.com/01/i/04/b9/e1/47_1_b.JPG
They say the goal is to get the marble out of the bottle. I've seen many items like this in the past and I've always been wondering whether they're just supposed to amaze me or I am supposed to "solve" them somehow... does anyone know?


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 7:45 pm 
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they're entirely possible ... I have a version that is a wooden stick with 2 perpendicular bolts each with 2 washers(one on each side of the stick) and a nut.

It takes about 10 minutes to work the nuts off by rolling the stick around in the bottle.

The hard part is assembling it ... getting the washers and nuts on inside the bottle, but it just takes time and patience.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 10:21 am 
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Ok, thanks. So that was a bad example. Here's another one I've seen, it's a screw in a wooden frame (imagine it in 3D). Anybody knows it? Am I supposed to get the screw out?


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It depends.
There are 2 types of that puzzle, one for disassembly, one for looks.

The one where you don't get it out was originally created as a novelty item, and there's no good way to get it out. To put it in, you boiled the piece of wood and crushed one side to allow the nail/screw to be inserted in the other. The wood would then return to its normal position.

There is another version of this puzzle that I've seen that you can take apart. I've never seen one in person, but they sell them at BitsAndPieces.com I believe that there is a mechanical solution ... maybe magnets or something like that.


My personal favorite impossible puzzle is the double dovetail joint. it's made with 2 differently stained pieces of wood with differing grain patterns.
It's an amazing little trinket, and looks cool as heck. But unfortunately, it doesn't come apart.
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TBTTyler wrote:

My personal favorite impossible puzzle is the double dovetail joint. it's made with 2 differently stained pieces of wood with differing grain patterns.
It's an amazing little trinket, and looks cool as heck. But unfortunately, it doesn't come apart.
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I got my information from "Wonders in Wood" by Edwin M. Wyatt. They use steam to push it in. I just read that there is a Triple Dovetail puzzle and that is in the book as well. I guess you can get the book below but I got mind from ebay but where else :wink: .

http://www.woodworkerslibrary.com/produ ... 270&page=1


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There is one similar bottle thing where the trick is to spin the bottle really fast.

They seem to be more the kind of thing where you must know the solution...


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Happy birthday Google!

Search for this and there is a solution that does not involve a hammer ;)


the solution requires a hammer
http://www.google.com/search?q=the+solu ... s+a+hammer


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 10:51 pm 
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perhaps the stick is like a straw? and the nails and nuts are glued on the outside? :wink:


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