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 Post subject: Gigaminx V2
PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 3:57 pm 
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OK, I wanted to let Adam and Aleh get credit where it was due, but it's time to jump on this bandwagon :)

On Saturday morning, I get an e-mail from Geert with some amazing photos of my redesigned gigaminx (Geert and I did something similar to Adam and Aleh), though they were unstickered. All of the pieces were prototyped, and with almost no cleanup (that I can see) the puzzle is speedsolve worthy.

Then I check the forum, and find that somebody else beat me to it. And on the same day... Well crap :?

Great minds think alike I guess. So without further adieu, I present some pictures of the Gigaminx V2.


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Very nice.

It looks like Geert used the same type of printing he did with the Turn Apart and Unscrambled which provides a totally different kind of texture that isn't exactly 'smooth' but has very little resistance or friction against surfaces of the same material. I'd love to see a video of it. I can imagine it would turn very nicely.

Is it a custom printed core, or are you using a chinese minx like last time?

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Chinese Minx Core.
Cores, though not difficult to design, are expensive. I've got about 5 of the Chinese minxes sitting around, so it's easy to take measurements and save a couple bucks.


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Fantastic! :D
Great work! :shock:
I love white plastic as well!
Dead envious!
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So do you have plans to sell master pieces?


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Very nice work !!!
I like it, are you going to make any video ???

Nice work again I love the color !

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Mmmmh - the white is beautiful.
Does it move as well as Aleh's/Adam's one?

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What did you do differently then the first one that you did?

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I Redesigned the mechanism. It's also (as you can see) much smaller.

It doesn't move quite as well as Adams, but that's because all the parts are still in their rough rapid prototyped state. If the pieces were smoothed, the two puzzles would move similarly.


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video prehaps?

how long did it take to do this one after making the first one?


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The two puzzles are remarkably similar, but I did not know of this puzzle when the video of Aleh's Gigaminx was posted.


For those of you playing the home game, this is the second time I have independently made the same puzzle as some one else, and at the same time! :shock:



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Puzzlemaster42 wrote:
The two puzzles are remarkably similar, but I did not know of this puzzle when the video of Aleh's Gigaminx was posted.

TBTTyler wrote:
Well crap, I just redesigned the gigaminx too. :? :)


That's the fifth reply to the Aleh Gigaminx thread.

So you beat him to the punch.


Congrats though. Don't take it personally either (the designing the same puzzle independently), it just means more for the community. :D

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Ah very very nice I like white minxes. Good job.


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Beautiful. Let me repeat the earlier requests for a video. Nice job!


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wonderful! great job on your work.


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Great job! It is amazing how often the same puzzle comes out simultaneously by two people/groups.
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 Post subject: Re: Gigaminx V2
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This is the equivalent of an 5x5x5 to a Megaminx right?And I think that it solves like the 5x5x5 combined with the metods of solving the Megaminx,olso the mechanism it the same
A really cool thing would be an 4x4x4 equivalent to a Megaminx 8-)


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 Post subject: Re: Gigaminx V2
PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 8:46 pm 
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there isnt any way you can cut a dodecahedron that gives a 4x4x4 analog

what's happening with the gen2 gigaminxs?


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 Post subject: Re: Gigaminx V2
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QUINBLZ wrote:
there isnt any way you can cut a dodecahedron that gives a 4x4x4 analog

what's happening with the gen2 gigaminxs?



Actually, while I don't know if its physically attainable, but on GeletinBrains page http://users.skynet.be/gelatinbrain/Applets/Magic%20Polyhedra/index.htm, 1.1.10 is a 4x4x4 I believe, or its at least a void 5x5x5.
Do correct me if I'm wrong on any of that.


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 Post subject: Re: Gigaminx V2
PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 1:07 pm 
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A 4x4 version is highly debatable. Depends what you call a 2x2.

Would it be the Pentultimate? The deepcut puzzle?
http://users.skynet.be/gelatinbrain/App ... eca_f6.htm

Would it be the Impossiball? The corners only puzzle?
http://users.skynet.be/gelatinbrain/App ... ca_f13.htm

Or would it be the Pyraminx Crystal? Just because? :P
http://users.skynet.be/gelatinbrain/App ... eca_f2.htm


Well, if the Pentultimate is deemed the "Regular Dodecahedron 2x2", then this puzzle would look like the 4x4 version (Note: It is not fully functional as it only uses slice moves)
http://users.skynet.be/gelatinbrain/App ... eca_f7.htm

If the Impossiball is deemed the Regular Dodecahedron 2x2", then a puzzle with extra cuts would be the 4x4 version (Note: There is no applet for this puzzle)

And finally if the Pyraminx Crystal is deemed the Regular Dodecahedron 2x2", then the puzzle PO provided would be the 4x4 version. (Note: I don't really consider the PC to be a 2x2 dodecahedron, because it also moves edges, it is not deep cut, nor do it's edges correspond to any pieces on the Megaminx or Gigaminx. I believe it is a puzzle on it's own.)
http://users.skynet.be/gelatinbrain/App ... eca_f9.htm



And this brings up a suggestion I've been thinking about for a while. If we have a Dodecagonal Impossiball, why don't we call it the Kilominx?

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 Post subject: Re: Gigaminx V2
PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 1:26 pm 
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May I ask, what in the heck is a Dodecagonal?!?


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 Post subject: Re: Gigaminx V2
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My bad. It should be dodecahedral. A dodecagon is a 12 sided 2D shape, while a Dodecahedron is a 12 sided 3D shape.

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 Post subject: Re: Gigaminx V2
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I would consider the impossiball to be the 2x2 minx.

Now, to get a 4x4 cube, you draw the lines from a 2x2 and a 3x3 (and then resize them for aesthetics). For the minx, you do the same.

(excuse my poor drawing)

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 Post subject: Re: Gigaminx V2
PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 7:48 pm 
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i agree thats the impossiball is the "2x2"

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 Post subject: Re: Gigaminx V2
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blade740 wrote:
I would consider the impossiball to be the 2x2 minx.

Now, to get a 4x4 cube, you draw the lines from a 2x2 and a 3x3 (and then resize them for aesthetics). For the minx, you do the same.

(excuse my poor drawing)

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Now that looks like one scary puzzle.

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 Post subject: Re: Gigaminx V2
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Well the picture blade740 posted is OK, but the centers and corners shouldn't be cut up. For me, the best way to imagine a "4x4x4" minx is to take a gigaminx, remove the star part of each face, and sort of stretch the rest to fill the gap.

Has anyone made an impossiball that doesn't have the elastic spider idea? This would be a good first step to designing the 4x4x4 minx (which I would definitely like to see in action :) ).

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 Post subject: Re: Gigaminx V2
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the 4x4 minx would just have 5 centers and 2 edges per side, basically, if you turned ONLY the middle layers, you would have an impossiball

just like how if you turn only the middle layers of a 4x4 you would have a 2x2

the 4x4 minx is physically possible, just not with an axis mechanism, maybe a groove mech like the 4x4 rubik's brand

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 Post subject: Re: Gigaminx V2
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The 4x4x4Megaminx(I call it Starminx) cuts should look like this
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And to work it would be spherical like the impossiball or put an Gigaminx inside it and stick pieces to it.Exacly like an eastsheen 4x4x4(or 2x2x2)


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