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 Post subject: The 6x6x6
PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2003 9:40 pm 
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Hello
I am happy to presente you my new realization
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It is a full working cube, design and made by myself.


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 Post subject: Re: The 6x6x6
PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2003 12:29 am 
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I dont even know what to say...
This has made my day.
Great Job!!!!!!!!!


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 Post subject: Re: The 6x6x6
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Incredible !

The best congratulations !

I have the sensation that the cube is realized with Eastsheen pieces ...

Bye,

Aswapati


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 Post subject: Re: The 6x6x6
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Yes, you are right. Those are eastsheen pieces.. The internal mechanism is definitely either an eastsheen 4x4 or a meffert/rubik 4x4. The outside pieces look to be 5x5 eastsheen pieces...

Wayne,
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 Post subject: Re: The 6x6x6
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Little informations about your reply :
First, thank you for your congratulations.
Second, I have use no element of existing cubes. I have design and made all the pieces and particularly the mecanism. There is more than 200 pieces in this cube !!!


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 Post subject: Re: The 6x6x6
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There's achievement

and there's achievement

and there's

the 6x6x6


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 Post subject: Re: The 6x6x6
PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2003 10:52 am 
I want one. 'nuff said


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 Post subject: Re: The 6x6x6
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One curiousity, it's a bit hard to make out, but is tha a complete checkerboard pattern or is the top face not checkered in the picture?


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 Post subject: Re: The 6x6x6
PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2003 9:40 pm 
Wow!!!
Congratulations!!!!!
A workable 6x6x6 is something, i`m dreaming of!

Do you want to keep your internal mechanism secret or can
you gave us some information, how you managed to build this wunderful puzzle?
(just curios - i don`t think, i am able to build one too)

Really great work!

Simon


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 Post subject: getting a 6x6x6, payment & Jaap u there? how many combinati
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Yup! I definitely want one of these. How much for the 6x6x6 cube? What form of payments do you take? Any ebay?

Jaap you there? I was just curious on how many combinations there are?


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 Post subject: combinations?
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Once the orientation of the puzzle is fixed (or, equivalently, after fixing the position and orientation of a specified corner), this seems to be approximately 4.30756E118, or, exactly,

7! 3^6 (24!)^2 [24! / (4!)^6]^2 [48! / (8!)^6]

but I await Jaap's correction...

Unfortunately my license for Mathematica has run out, so I can't give all 119 digits of the result.


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 Post subject: Re: The 6x6x6
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Well, I have to take my hat off. You beat me to it. My 6x6x6 is still being realised, but not it time it seems. Laurent, is the mechanism true? Can you give us any vague specs on it?


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 Post subject: Re: The 6x6x6
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This is great work. Congratulations. I'm begging you to allow me to add these pictures to the TwistyPuzzles.com database! And I may as well add my name to the pot of "Will you sell one". But if I were you looking to sell this thing, I'd have it on eBay real quick.

And since I'm begging for pictures, I'd also like to ask the following inventors for pictures too:

- Anthony for the Dodecahedron
- Maxime for the Professor Magic Tangle
- Wayne for the Super Magic Middle-Earth

Did I miss any?! What a week!

Sandy


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 Post subject: Re: The 6x6x6
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Speechless is right...

Amazing work. Yep, definitely look like Eastsheen pieces. You can see the intricate overlapping work in the partially turned piece.

In any case I am just happy to bask in the presence of its magnificence.


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 Post subject: Re: The 6x6x6
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I'd give up masturbation for a month just to try one of those.


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 Post subject: Re: The 6x6x6
PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2003 7:23 am 
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Unbelievable! Do you plan to produce some to sell?


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 Post subject: Re: The 6x6x6
PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2003 8:04 am 
Oui! cube tres gentil


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 Post subject: Re: The 6x6x6
PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2003 11:08 am 
Hi Sandy,

I see no objections.

However, you might want to have better pictures of
the puzzle. I will try and use a real camera, instead
of the poor-quality webcam I used for this pics.

In the meantime, please, feel free to take these pictures.

Well, I haven't decided whether I should like to sell this beast. It looks great and I have had fun building it, but I don't really have a collection. But I could probably trade it for... a 6x6x6 ? :-) doh!

Cheers.
Maxime.


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 Post subject: Re: The 6x6x6
PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2003 11:34 am 
You beat me too it it as well (not that that's saying much), and I am impressed.

But i was wondering, looking at the pictures it looks as if an edge and the piece next to it have a cut out the size of a 3x3x3's the obviously wouldn't seem to alow the turning of a 6x6x6, how did you do it?

(If that didn't make sence heres what i mean, the circular cut out visible is the same size as on a 3x3x3 cube, implying that it would turn as one -about that 3x3x6 edge- which it visibly does not.)


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 Post subject: Re: The 6x6x6
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I hope that someone will produce the 6x6x6 in the next year or ... two years (at least one of the 6x6x6 types).
Is there no firm (Rubiks, Meffert, Eastsheen or ... ?) that has interest in the production of such a puzzle ?

50$ or 75$ for a piece ?

not enough quantities for interesting revenues ?

I am really curious to see what happens.

Anyway I find it really amazing.
Compliments for the mechanism in itself. Compliments for the capability to produce the phisical puzzle. Compliments for the patience of the realisation.

We wait now for the version of Wayne.

Bye,

Aswapati


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 Post subject: Oops
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Sorry, I forgot to add my congratulations! What can one say?


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 Post subject: Re: The 6x6x6
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I've worked with Photoshop to try to exaggerate any differences in the sticker colours on the top face, but was unable. It certainly does appear as though the top face is pure green.

Then again, whenever I follow the familiar checkerboard algorithm on a 4x4x4, I end up with this same problem. Four sides checkered, two sides solid.

Sandy


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 Post subject: combinations -- corrected
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Corrected value (let's hope this is OK now):

7! 3^6 (24!)^2 [24! / (4!)^6]^4 = 1.571528584E116

The complication is that pieces of the kind marked X and Y below (a view of one face) must stay in locations of the same type. You can check this by considering the action of each face turn and slice move. It is easy to construct 3-cycles of (say) type-X pieces, so that all _distinguishable_ permutations of type-X pieces are achievable.

******
**XY**
*Y**X*
*X**Y*
**YX**
******

Can anyone think of any more constraints?


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 Post subject: Design
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Maxime, I hope you are working toward a patent on this design. Furthermore, I hope you are working on a contract with one of the puzzle manufacturers. Given some of the behaviors we have seen in the puzzle world, you need to be filing patents immediately, if not yesterday, in order to protect you intellectual property rights. Congratulations and best of luck.


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 Post subject: Pics for Sandy
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Yep, Sandy, I'm hoping that anything uploaded there is ok for your use. But I'll add that as conditional text to the uploader to that the user knows that the picture may be used elsewhere.


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 Post subject: Re: The 6x6x6
PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2003 11:37 am 
Superb!! How long have u been planning this anyway Laurent?
When u r in need of cash, just list it on eBay, it will ease most of your financial problems rapidly I believe! Of all the mods I have seen lately in this board, this 666 is the marvel of the lot for me :D


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 Post subject: Re: The 6x6x6
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Ok, dumb question, but how big is it?


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 Post subject: Sorry, Laurent
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Sorry, Laurent. I got kinda confused about who invented what in this thread. Of course, I am talking about the intellectual property rights to the 6x6x6.


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 Post subject: Re: The 6x6x6
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Seriously though I imagine it will get upwards of $3000 on ebay, thats just my guess. That is unless you list it with some obscure misspelling ;)
If I were you, I wouldn't be able to part with something like that for any price, unless of course I had two of them.

-d


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 Post subject: Re: The 6x6x6
PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2003 10:23 am 
Is this for real!
If so If you decide to sell some of these I would be willing to buy one.


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 Post subject: Re: The 6x6x6
PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2003 10:23 am 
WWWWWWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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 Post subject: Re: The 6x6x6
PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2003 3:58 am 
It looks ultimately difficult to make and solve.


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 Post subject: Re: The 6x6x6
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Solving will not be a problem you can use the same method as for a 4x4x4, it is only much more work compared to a 4x4x4.


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What happened eventually with that threat?

Almost 4 years ago! Dang! Time passes so fast.......

I have a few questions on my mind.

Where is Proffesor Koran who claimed he had almost made the patent for 6x6,7x7 and bigger cubes? No relation with Mr Verdes, inventor of olympic cubes? First news about Verdes were a lot of years ago too, right?

Do anybody know if it was any connection between those? Even more, was Laure in the middle of the subject too?

Quite strange that too many proyects for 6x6 and, 4 years later, still unable to buy those........

Mr Verdes, you're our last chance!!!!!!! lol.

Waiting waiting waiting....................

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you are a master, please, do us all a favor, sell your blueprints to rubik's/eastsheen/mefferts!!!!!!!

I WANT ONE BAD!


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This thread is 4 years old...

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Daniel W wrote:
This thread is 4 years old...


Yup, that's what I said in my first sentence lol

And that's also why I wrote on that topic... Almost 4 years ago... he dissapeared.......... no more words on this one......... where is he?

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No news for the 6x6x6?

what about http://www.olympicube.com/video/6_s.html ??? and more videos to come soon....

no news for the 7x7x7?
what about http://www.olympicube.com/video/7x7.html ???

No news for the ROCKcube 5x5x5?
what about http://www.olympicube.com/video/5_s.html ???

what about the international patents?

be patient
the machines will be in your hands lifetime...

we are now thinking to prepare a REAL SUDOLYMPICUBE model also...

konstantinos


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NEWCUBES wrote:
No news for the 6x6x6?

what about http://www.olympicube.com/video/6_s.html ??? and more videos to come soon....

no news for the 7x7x7?
what about http://www.olympicube.com/video/7x7.html ???

No news for the ROCKcube 5x5x5?
what about http://www.olympicube.com/video/5_s.html ???

what about the international patents?

be patient
the machines will be in your hands lifetime...


Ευχαριστούμε κ. Βερδέ! Προσωπικά, περιμένω υπομονετικά τις εξελίξεις.



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we are now thinking to prepare a REAL SUDOLYMPICUBE model also...

konstantinos


ο Κύβος 9x9x9 θα είναι τέλειος γιά αυτόν τον σκοπό! :D


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kastellorizo wrote:
Προσωπικά, περιμένω υπομονετικά τις εξελίξεις.
Πανταζής

Κι εγώ, κι εγώ :D :D :D
kastellorizo wrote:
ο Κύβος 9x9x9 θα είναι τέλειος γιά αυτόν τον σκοπό!

πράγματι!


έτσι διαβάζεις το φόρουμ Κώστα!


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Κωνσταντίνος, Σας ευχαριστώ για τη σκληρή εργασία και την προσπάθειά σας να πάρει τα νέα προϊόντα σας στα χέρια μας! Θα περιμένω υπομονετικά μέχρης ότου βγαίνουν και θα διεγερθώ για να πάρω ενός.


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(i'm sorta new, so noob question:) when someone creates a new puzzle, do they patent it right away? like ex. did tony get a patent for his golden cube? do other puzzle-creators get patents? cuz i am interested in building new cubes. just wondering. of course this 6x6 has been made by many people. but does one person hold the patent? from stopping other people to sell it when they make it?

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NEWCUBES wrote:
No news for the 6x6x6?

what about http://www.olympicube.com/video/6_s.html ??? and more videos to come soon....

no news for the 7x7x7?
what about http://www.olympicube.com/video/7x7.html ???

No news for the ROCKcube 5x5x5?
what about http://www.olympicube.com/video/5_s.html ???

what about the international patents?

be patient
the machines will be in your hands lifetime...

we are now thinking to prepare a REAL SUDOLYMPICUBE model also...

konstantinos


hehehe. Don't worry Konstantinos. I was talking about this guy's one.

We all know your advances, and are waiting for them! :):):):)

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Unfortunately in the U.S. a utility patent done correctly by a lawyer costs about $8000+.
Also, the patent covers the internal mech. Therefore, if somebody comes up with a new way for the insides to work then they can sell their own idea.

I think it's like how there's a Rubik's and an Eastsheen 4x4 and 5x5. However don't quote me on this cause there's some international stuff going on and laws change from country to country.

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NEWCUBES wrote:
be patient
the machines will be in your hands lifetime...
konstantinos


first of all WHOOPIE!

and second of all, the beautiful works of art will be in our hands...

lol


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is there an Eastsheen 3x3x3?

cause there is an OLYMPIC CUBE No3...
to come soon


if you talk about cubes there are very very very very much limited alternatives...on the internal mech. So many that I can count them on my my one hand fingers and still i have many fingers left...

if you talk about other products you are right.

http://www.olympicube.com


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nah, there is a mefferts 3x3 assembly cube, the mech looks different than the rubiks so idk..


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Adam Zamora wrote:
Κωνσταντίνος, Σας ευχαριστώ για τη σκληρή εργασία και την προσπάθειά σας να πάρει τα νέα προϊόντα σας στα χέρια μας! Θα περιμένω υπομονετικά μέχρης ότου βγαίνουν και θα διεγερθώ για να πάρω ενός.


Not a bad translation. But for precise grammar and syntax, it should be:

"Κωνσταντίνο, σας ευχαριστώ για τη σκληρή εργασία και την προσπάθειά σας να δώσετε τα νέα προϊόντα σας στα χέρια μας! Θα περιμένω υπομονετικά μέχρις ότου ετοιμαστούν και θα χαρώ να αγοράσω ένα."

(I am saying this, because the word "διεγερθώ" is used for other, more "sexual" references LOL)



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kastellorizo wrote:
(I am saying this, because the word "διεγερθώ" is used for other, more "sexual" references LOL)


Υποτιμάτε πόσοι άνθρωποι θέλουν αυτόν τον γρίφο.


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First: What are you guys saying?

Second: I wonder what an Eastsheen-style 6x6x6 would look like on the inside? It would be so complicated... (But so cool!)

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