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 Post subject: Tony Fisher's Peekaboo Cube (secrets now revealed)
PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 11:47 am 
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A holey Treasure Chest with a scrambled Micro Rubik's Cube inside. The cube is much larger than the holes. A stand is attached to one edge piece.

Initial state:
Treasure Chest- "solved". Internal Micro Cube- "scrambled".

Solved state:
Puzzles separate and both solved (In the video I forgot to say the big cube should also be in a solved state).

Notes:
You may not disassemble the Micro Cube.
The fact that the Micro Cube is white with a keyring loop is not relevant.
All other elements are relevant to the solving.
This puzzle is not intended to be solved with my bare chest method.
It's difficult to really show the internal Micro Cube in the video or photos.
I don't want to spoil any potential buyers enjoyment of the puzzle by revealing it's secrets yet but I will update this post at a suitable time.
Apologies for the dreadful dialogue but it's one of the few puzzle that doesn't speak for itself.

Sum up
Novelty puzzle

See newer post lower down page for continuation and solving method

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 Post subject: Re: Tony Fisher's Peekaboo Cube
PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:03 pm 
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I don't really understand :? , (like yes, and no :lol: ), but wow nice :D .

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 Post subject: Re: Tony Fisher's Peekaboo Cube
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:shock: :shock: I was just waiting for someone to do this. Nice Puzzle. How did you make the holes in the treasure chest?

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 Post subject: Re: Tony Fisher's Peekaboo Cube
PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:11 pm 
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Very nice!

I have a guess on how to solve it. :)

I like that you spoke in your video! :)

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 Post subject: Re: Tony Fisher's Peekaboo Cube
PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:38 pm 
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Drake wrote:
I don't really understand :?


This is very much a puzzle that you need to have in your hands to appreciate (or dislike) though I thought my video clearly described it.
There are many non twisty puzzles in the world where half the fun is working out what to do to solve them and not simply working out algorithms. I thought it was about time that this concept was brought into a twisty puzzle. I am sure it is alien to many here and I too am not sure about what I have created. sometimes I think it's a great idea but other times I think it's just stupid.
More importantly than the puzzle itself though I very much hope it opens up another aspect of twisty puzzles and proves they aren't 'old hat' as some people seem to think.

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 Post subject: Re: Tony Fisher's Peekaboo Cube
PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 1:05 pm 
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1.) That puzzle looks excessively awesome, great idea
2.) Twisty puzzles will never, ever, ever, ever, etc., be old. Ever. Never.


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 Post subject: Re: Tony Fisher's Peekaboo Cube
PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 4:47 am 
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Very promising!


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 Post subject: Re: Tony Fisher's Peekaboo Cube
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Is it possible for the internal cube to be able to reorientate itself within the larger cube? I have suspicions on how to solve it.

Great work, it's a brilliant puzzle.

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 Post subject: Re: Tony Fisher's Peekaboo Cube
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Luke wrote:
Is it possible for the internal cube to be able to reorientate itself within the larger cube? I have suspicions on how to solve it.

Great work, it's a brilliant puzzle.


Yes but remember the internal Cube must end up outside.

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 Post subject: Re: Tony Fisher's Peekaboo Cube
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Is the mini 3x3 scrambled then the solved state of the mini 3x3 is the open state for the treasure chest.
Are he mini 3x3 corners attached to the base of the treasure chest corners or something similar, where when you turn a treasure chest face it turns a face of the mini 3x3?

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 Post subject: Re: Tony Fisher's Peekaboo Cube
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Some of you are getting the idea so here is the rest of the post.

Remember this is the kind of puzzle you would be attempting to solve with no prior knowledge. Knowing what to do in advance will completely spoil any enjoyment. I haven't decided yet but I may auction this so-

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The solver has to first work out how to open the Treasure Chest. He (or she) would quickly realise that it will not come apart in it's visually solved state. Hopefully he would come to realise that the only clue to opening the chest lies with the inner Micro Cube since as stated all aspects are relevant including the holes and ability to see the internal cube.
As some have already worked out the outer cube must be put into the same pattern as the inner cube in order to open it. The problem with this though is that the holes are quite small and it is very dark inside. It probably would be possible to just about see the colours but it would not be much fun so I have included a secret element that the solver will probably discover. By twisting the stand a small light comes on inside making it much more seeable.
Now he merely has to rattle the inner cube around and copy the pattern onto the outer cube. Once done the Chest is mechanically solved and can be opened to reveal the inner cube which can then be solved as normal. Ideally I would have used a black Micro Cube but the white ones I have are much better quality. Obviously black on the Micro cube represents white on the outer cube.
I guess my puzzle would only be fun to solve once but I am glad I tried something a little different.

I have also tried to explain it in the new video. Once again apologies for the dialogue.
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The stand doubles up as a torch making it possible to clearly see the Micro Cube pattern.
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Below is the mechanically solved state of the Cube. It can now be opened.
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This is the solved state.
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 Post subject: Re: Tony Fisher's Peekaboo Cube (secrets now revealed)
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This is brilliant! When I saw your other video a couple of days ago, I tought very very hard about it. How was i supposed to now the stand was actually a torch? :D
Good job!


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 Post subject: Re: Tony Fisher's Peekaboo Cube (secrets now revealed)
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That is fantastic, I didn't think about the stand at all :D
Very unique piece.

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 Post subject: Re: Tony Fisher's Peekaboo Cube (secrets now revealed)
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I guessed the internal cube was the solution for opening the outer cube, but the hidden LED was a nice touch.

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 Post subject: Re: Tony Fisher's Peekaboo Cube (secrets now revealed)
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If i understand this correctly, then once the puzzle is in its solved state,(smaller cube outside and both cubes have all faces as one solid color), then you will have no reference for the state needed to open the larger cube again? without the smaller cube in its original "scrambled" state, you wont know how to make the larger cube.


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 Post subject: Re: Tony Fisher's Peekaboo Cube (secrets now revealed)
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Very interesting puzzle! Good thing you've got plenty of photos recording the open state of the outer cube. Otherwise once you separated the two cubes and solved both, you would have to resort to using your "bare chest method" to get it open again to allow the puzzle to be reassembled into it's beginning state. A rare puzzle that might actually be harder to "unsolve" than it is to solve.

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 Post subject: Re: Tony Fisher's Peekaboo Cube (secrets now revealed)
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I have made a note of the arrangement and any buyer would be supplied with it to reset the puzzle.

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 Post subject: Re: Tony Fisher's Peekaboo Cube (secrets now revealed)
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This would be a good puzzle to submit for the puzzle design competition. You would need to make a second one, but it looks like there is plenty of time. It's very innovative.

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 Post subject: Re: Tony Fisher's Peekaboo Cube (secrets now revealed)
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Very interesting puzzle,
its way more fun when you have to figure out what the puzzle is first!
To make it a little more difficult you could make it look like a normal 3x3, except for the stand. Maybe by replacing the stickers with tiles and then making the center tiles in a way that they could be opened (or removed) to see what's inside.

BTW, I prefer the talking version of your videos I don't see why you're apologizing :D

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 Post subject: Re: Tony Fisher's Peekaboo Cube (secrets now revealed)
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I agree that this would be a good design competition puzzle. It is part twisty puzzle, but also a trick opening box. When I saw the "secrets", I couldn't help but grin...

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 Post subject: Re: Tony Fisher's Peekaboo Cube (secrets now revealed)
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Had to log in to say how awesome I think this is. Congrats once again, Tony, very cool.


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 Post subject: Re: Tony Fisher's Peekaboo Cube (secrets now revealed)
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Absolutely amazing! I like that part of the puzzle is working out what exactly the puzzle is! The stand is actually pretty cool for display purposes too.

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