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pirsquared
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Post subject: Master Helicopter Cube (Now on Shapeways!) Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:54 am |
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Joined: Wed Jan 07, 2009 6:46 pm Location: Evanston, IL
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Hey Twisty Puzzlers, Engineering school is as crazy as ever (11 weeks left as an undergrad!), so even the stickering of this puzzle has been spread out over the last two weeks. In any case, the puzzle finally done, so I'm happy to present... The True Master Helicopter CubeVideo!Attachment:
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When I first presented the Master Helicopter Cube in August 2010, people told me that what I had really made was a Master Curvy Copter. So finally, here is a True Master Helicopter Cube. The inner layer cut is completely flat, and the outer layer cut is as close to flat as I could make it without cutting pieces off. I designed this puzzle on SolidWorks, printed it in the WSF material at Shapeways, dyed it using Rit Dye, and stickered it with Mefferts high-quality vinyl that I cut on my university's laser cutter. For Andreas: Edge length = 75mm Weight = (I will weigh it between classes tomorrow) The Master Helicopter Cube and the Master Curvy Copter are now available on Shapeways as DIY kits. By popular demand, I have made them available in WSF ($180), BSF ($205), and WSF Polished ($205). When you order, please send an email with your order number to "eitanspuzzleshop @ gmail . com" (without spaces). Be sure to indicate which one you bought. I will be emailing Oliver the sticker layout tomorrow. Enjoy the rest of the pictures! Attachment:
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Copyright 2012 - Eitan Cher
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Last edited by pirsquared on Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:08 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Drake
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Post subject: Re: True Master Helicopter Cube Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:00 am |
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Joined: Sun Jan 02, 2011 6:48 pm Location: Canada
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Nice work, look's nice  .
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EMI94100
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Post subject: Re: True Master Helicopter Cube Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:02 am |
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Wow. Amazing puzzle. It seems to turn very well, however I would prefer a flat side version...
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Alwayspuzzled
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Post subject: Re: True Master Helicopter Cube Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:22 am |
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Beautiful puzzle! I would by your puzzle on Shapeways for $180.
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Luke
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Post subject: Re: True Master Helicopter Cube Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:43 am |
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Joined: Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:21 pm Location: Chichester, England
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Awesome puzzle Eitan! I've been eager to see this one since you mentioned it. It looks absolutely brilliant. I for one would also strongly consider buying one at the mentioned price. It feels like tone of those puzzles that must be in a collection. 
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DinoBen
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Post subject: Re: True Master Helicopter Cube Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:10 am |
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Wow this would be really fun to solve.
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Gus
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Post subject: Re: True Master Helicopter Cube Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 9:08 am |
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Joined: Sun Mar 15, 2009 12:00 am Location: Jarrow, England
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Nice puzzle Eitan! Those stickers look tricky to apply - my stickers for the Tardis cube will be easy in comparison! DinoBen wrote: Wow this would be really fun to solve. Depends on your derfintion of "fun" 
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otischeng
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Post subject: Re: True Master Helicopter Cube Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:12 am |
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Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 11:12 am Location: Hong Kong/Beijing
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WOW! This one is just amazing! Must be very complex to solve it~
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Coaster1235
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Post subject: Re: True Master Helicopter Cube Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:24 am |
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Joined: Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:25 pm Location: Finland
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Looks awesome! Just a small nitpick (which hopefully won't degrade to another naming debate): going from the 3-layered Helicopter, shouldn't a 'true' True Master Helicopter have one layer less, aka 4 layers (aka Little Chop + Helicopter Cube)?
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bmenrigh
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Post subject: Re: True Master Helicopter Cube Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:45 am |
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Joined: Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:54 pm Location: San Jose, California
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Beautiful puzzle. I'm really glad to see this. The only issue I had with the Master Curvy Copter is that I couldn't play with it so I'm glad they may be a chance to fix that problem  . I especially like that 1) Gelatinbrain doesn't have an equivalent and 2) I'm not sure how to solve it. I'd definitely buy it at the $230 price.
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77mouser
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Post subject: Re: True Master Helicopter Cube Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:54 am |
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Joined: Mon Jun 14, 2010 6:59 pm Location: Crestwood, IL
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I can't believe what I'm seeing! I love the fluorescents-it really brings the beauty of the puzzle out. This would be an interesting solve.  I would buy one at that price range!
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wwwmwww
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Post subject: Re: True Master Helicopter Cube Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:34 am |
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Joined: Thu Dec 02, 2004 12:09 pm Location: Missouri
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Curious... how did you get your name/logo onto the stickers? That looks like a very nice touch. As for putting in on Shapeways... PLEASE do. I can't afford it right away but I really would like the option to get this down the road.
Carl
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pirsquared
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Post subject: Re: True Master Helicopter Cube Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 12:35 pm |
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EMI94100 wrote: I would prefer a flat side version... So would I, but I am pretty sure that it can't be done without losing the little squares in the middle. The mechanism is very close to the surface on those as it is, so making it flatter would slice the faces right off. Coaster1235 wrote: Just a small nitpick (which hopefully won't degrade to another naming debate): going from the 3-layered Helicopter, shouldn't a 'true' True Master Helicopter have one layer less, aka 4 layers (aka Little Chop + Helicopter Cube) Probably right, but let's not go there until we have to. bmenrigh wrote: Gelatinbrain doesn't have an equivalent I sent an email to the comments address for gelatinbrain on this subject exactly. I hope he can make it happen! wwwmwww wrote: how did you get your name/logo onto the stickers? I use the laser cutter in its "rastering" mode before cutting out the shape. That's how I've always done it, and I'm not sure what I'll do next year if my graduate school doesn't have a laser cutter. Thanks, everyone! -Eitan
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Sigurd
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Post subject: Re: True Master Helicopter Cube Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:14 pm |
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Joined: Mon Aug 27, 2007 3:50 pm Location: Copenhagen, Denmark
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Nice nice puzzle! I too was one of those asking for a true Master Helicopter Cube. Thank you for making this! I will love to own one in the future. I can't promise you when, but I deffinatly want one.
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merlintocs
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Post subject: Re: True Master Helicopter Cube Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 3:33 pm |
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Joined: Fri Dec 23, 2005 1:45 pm Location: St. Louis, Missouri
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That, my friend, is awesome.
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Frank Tiex
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Post subject: Re: True Master Helicopter Cube Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:06 pm |
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Joined: Sun Apr 30, 2006 4:17 am Location: Düsseldorf, Germany
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Eh - wow! Fantastic. Tell me, when it's available on your Shapeways shop. The price is absolutely OK. I will order one (please make it available also as WSF polished, no worries about the higher price). What else shall I say?
Frank
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Gus
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Post subject: Re: True Master Helicopter Cube Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:20 pm |
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Joined: Sun Mar 15, 2009 12:00 am Location: Jarrow, England
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Frank Tiex wrote: I will order one (please make it available also as WSF polished WSF polished does not work very well if the pieces are very small with detailed designs. It's OK only for large flat surfaces, in my experience.
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wwwmwww
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Post subject: Re: True Master Helicopter Cube Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:19 pm |
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pirsquared wrote: Coaster1235 wrote: Just a small nitpick (which hopefully won't degrade to another naming debate): going from the 3-layered Helicopter, shouldn't a 'true' True Master Helicopter have one layer less, aka 4 layers (aka Little Chop + Helicopter Cube) Probably right, but let's not go there until we have to.  If you ask me the meaning of the term "Master" in the name of a twisty puzzle is so convoluted as to be almost meaningless. If you look at the skewb (order=1 deep cut puzzle) and the master skewb (order=2) or the pentultimate (order=1 deep cut puzzle) and the master pentultimate (order=2) you come to the conclusion that "master" means the next highest order puzzle which is deep cut as much as possible. Note a shallower cut master skewb would be the Dino Cube or a shallower cut master pentultimate could be a megaminx. By this logic the 3x3x3 should be the Master Cube. Since the Helicopter Cube is already order=2 (two cut planes per axis of rotation) it could be considered a shallower cut verion of the true Master Edge Turn Cube already... IMHO, Carl
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RubiksMaster614
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Post subject: Re: True Master Helicopter Cube Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:32 pm |
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@wwwmwww I agree. Professor helicopter cube?
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Burgo
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Post subject: Re: True Master Helicopter Cube Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:35 am |
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Is there something (technically or obligatory) stopping you from releasing the curvy as well?
Cheers, Burgo.
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Post subject: Re: True Master Helicopter Cube Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 3:49 am |
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I'm with you there Burgo.I love both of these but I would prefer the Curvy Chinook! I have TomZ's mass produced Curvy Copter and it is one of my Desert Island Puzzles.
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pirsquared
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Post subject: Re: True Master Helicopter Cube Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:29 am |
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Hey Everyone, Burgo wrote: Is there something (technically or obligatory) stopping you from releasing the curvy as well? Nope. On that note, I would like to announce that starting by the end of this weekend, my Master Curvy Copter Cube and my Master Helicopter Cube will be available on my Shapeways shop. I need to make a quick design change to the Master Curvy Copter, which is why I can't just post them right now. Keep an eye out here and on the YouTube video for the announcement. Each will be $200 in WSF, or $220 in BSF. At the moment, engineering school will not allow me time to do the dying, assembly, or stickering for people, so I will not be able to offer that service until later, and I will decide on a price at that time. RubiksMaster614 wrote: @wwwmwww I agree. Professor helicopter cube? I'm going to keep the name for now, since there's so much confusion. -Eitan
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Frank Tiex
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Post subject: Re: True Master Helicopter Cube Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:54 am |
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Gus wrote: Frank Tiex wrote: I will order one (please make it available also as WSF polished WSF polished does not work very well if the pieces are very small with detailed designs. It's OK only for large flat surfaces, in my experience. Hmm, if we want to discuss this more in general, we should open a new thread. For the moment: Maybe it's more personal feeling? All my last orders at Shapeways - if offered - had been WSF polished, around 5 or 6 different models. So far none of them was disappointing, but vice versa I enjoyed, that the puzzles did not need any breaking in. And among them there were also puzzles like Tom's 4x5x6 or the Multi-DoDec with a lot of VERY small pieces included. Nearly no dust - just fun. My experiences are 100% positive - worth the few more bucks. Frank
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wwwmwww
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Post subject: Re: True Master Helicopter Cube Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:19 am |
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pirsquared wrote: RubiksMaster614 wrote: @wwwmwww I agree. Professor helicopter cube? I'm going to keep the name for now, since there's so much confusion. I agree with Eitan. These are his puzzles and I'm happy letting him name them what he wants to. A nice clean definition of Master has already been cobbled so this certainly doesn't make things any worse. Carl
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pirsquared
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Post subject: Re: Master Helicopter Cube (Now on Shapeways!) Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:10 am |
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Hey everyone, The Master Helicopter Cube and the Master Curvy Copter are now available on Shapeways as DIY kits. By popular demand, I have made them available in WSF ($180), BSF ($205), and WSF Polished ($205). When you order, please send an email with your order number to "eitanspuzzleshop @ gmail . com" (without spaces). Be sure to indicate which one you bought. At the moment, I do not have time to dye, assemble, and sticker puzzles for people. Perhaps this summer I will have time. I will be emailing Oliver the sticker layouts tomorrow. Eitan
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Post subject: Re: True Master Helicopter Cube Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:49 pm |
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pirsquared wrote: EMI94100 wrote: I would prefer a flat side version... So would I, but I am pretty sure that it can't be done without losing the little squares in the middle. The mechanism is very close to the surface on those as it is, so making it flatter would slice the faces right off. I know that it would make the puzzle a bit more expensive, but can you extend the faces of the puzzle to make a flatter version?
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pirsquared
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Post subject: Re: Master Helicopter Cube (Now on Shapeways!) Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:25 pm |
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pirsquared
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Post subject: Re: Master Helicopter Cube (Now on Shapeways!) Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:44 pm |
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Ducttapemaster48
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Post subject: Re: Master Helicopter Cube (Now on Shapeways!) Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:51 pm |
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pirsquared wrote: It's not a matter of cost. It's a matter of pieces not having mechanism to hold them in. I will give it another try sometime, though.
-Eitan I'm not sure if I made the question clear enough. I was just wondering if you could extend the faces of the puzzle similar to how Tony Fisher extended the faces of the V-cube 7 so that they were flat. Sorry if you already knew what I meant. 
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Gus
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Post subject: Re: Master Helicopter Cube (Now on Shapeways!) Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:19 am |
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Although the V-Cube 7 has pillowed faces it has planar cuts, so extending to flat faces is possible. On this puzzle the cuts are curvy as well, so there is no way to just extend the pieces to make flat faces. I think!
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