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 Post subject: Brief review of my TomZ Christmas puzzles
PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:02 pm 
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I have shown a picture of my Christmas puzzles in the "Rare puzzles" thread

My parcel contained three puzzles from TomZ
- Compy Skewb
- Helicopter Skewb
- Curvy Copter II

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I have got them all fully assembled and stickered back in early October. My wife has kept them hidden from me until Christmas Eve. I have not played with them for a long time, but it may be of interest for others, if a share my impressions.

Size:- The Helicopter Skewb and the Curvy Copter II have the identical size as the mass-produced Helicopter from Jason (57mm edge length).
- The Compy Skewb is a few millimeters larger (~63mm).


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EDIT: As Tom has mentioned I have made a mistake: The Curvy Copter II is slightly larger than the Helicopter.

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Material:
All three are printed by Shapeways in their "White Strong Flexible" (WSF) material and dyed black by Tom.
The stickers are perfect and adhere very well.
I own now many Shapeways puzzles and the material is really named correctly by "strong and flexible".
It has been said earlier that breaking in and lubrication with a good silicone spray is crucial for this material.
If you hate lube, you better buy no WSF puzzles!!
I'll probably get Cubesmith tiles for the Helicopter Skewb (Just because I like those tiles, the stickers are perfect.)

Stability:
All three are perfectly stable. There is no chance of breaking or popping anything.

Turning:
I have to differentiate here:
The Compy Skewb and the Curvy Copter II were perfect out of the box. :D :D Just a tiny bit of silicone spray and they are turning very, very smoothly.
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On the Helicopter Skewb I started with Helicopter moves and was impressed how easy the puzzle turns.
The Skewb moves were not so good at the beginning. I have disassembled it completely, washed the inner pieces (no, not the stickered outer pieces), dryed and lubricated everything.
I was quite impressed by the mechanism. So many pieces - inner and outer pieces - must be perfectly aligned for a Skewb move!!
The puzzle turns now really well. Probably it is not as good on the Skewb moves as Tom's in his video, but I'm sure, a bit more breaking in and some more silicone. will improve it further.

My favourite?
I'm not yet sure, but probably the Compy Skewb would be my choice, if I could have only one of the three.

Solving
In theory, I know how to attack all of them, at least without the special jumbling moves of the Helicopter Skewb. The Curvy Copter had looked very intimidating, but after a brief look to a corresponding thread in the Solving subforum, it does not threaten me any longer.

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 Post subject: Re: Brief review of my TomZ Christmas puzzles
PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:58 pm 
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It must have been sickening not being able to play with these knowing they were sitting just next door! argh!! :)

Can you please verify that you got your Cuvey II in WSF? I believe mine was not made in this material, and I think Tom only made one batch of these, so I am quite surprised to read you saying this.

Honestly I am not so interested in the Compy Skewb, but as I am mostly a "looks" fan of puzzles, it WILL wind up in my colection at some point :)
And for the opposit reason (solving experience) the same will happen to the helicopter skewb ;)

What a great christmas gift! wow!

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 Post subject: Re: Brief review of my TomZ Christmas puzzles
PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:11 pm 
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Nice reviews!

There are a few WSF Curvy Copter II's out there, Konrad's is not one of them. Also, the Curvy Copter II is a bit larger than a regular Helicopter Cube.

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 Post subject: Re: Brief review of my TomZ Christmas puzzles
PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:47 pm 
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TomZ wrote:
Nice reviews!

There are a few WSF Curvy Copter II's out there, Konrad's is not one of them. Also, the Curvy Copter II is a bit larger than a regular Helicopter Cube.
Wait -- what are the other Curvy Copter IIs made of?? I am quite happy with mine in WSF (which I dyed black -- except for one piece that got left out of the pot! Oops). The Helicopter Skewb, I can't even unjumble!

If you want a real challenge, try *assembling* a Curvy Copter II. :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Brief review of my TomZ Christmas puzzles
PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:49 pm 
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They're made of a similar material, as used by materialise. A little different from the real stuff, but not bad or anything. I can barely tell the difference on mine.

Remember, I assembled 15 of those. It's not that hard.

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 Post subject: Re: Brief review of my TomZ Christmas puzzles
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TomZ wrote:
Nice reviews!

There are a few WSF Curvy Copter II's out there, Konrad's is not one of them. Also, the Curvy Copter II is a bit larger than a regular Helicopter Cube.
I had assumed that the Curvy Coper II is out of WSF. What material is it?? It does not look so different.
@Sigurd: Do you believe that the Compy Skewb is no additional challenge compared to the Dino Skewb?
You my be mistaken :) I like the view, the stability, the turning and the challenge.

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 Post subject: Re: Brief review of my TomZ Christmas puzzles
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Tom said there are a few WSF. I'm guessing that means there are more BSF :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Brief review of my TomZ Christmas puzzles
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RubixFreakGreg wrote:
Tom said there are a few WSF. I'm guessing that means there are more BSF :wink:

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Yeah, but BSF is just dyed WSF, right?

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 Post subject: Re: Brief review of my TomZ Christmas puzzles
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konsassen wrote:
RubixFreakGreg wrote:
Tom said there are a few WSF. I'm guessing that means there are more BSF :wink:

- Greg
Yeah, but BSF is just dyed WSF, right?


Yup, Shapeways dyes every WSF puzzle to make it BSF.

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 Post subject: Re: Brief review of my TomZ Christmas puzzles
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This discussion is getting off topic. Most Curvy Copter II's are made of a material similar to WSF that I dyed myself.

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 Post subject: Re: Brief review of my TomZ Christmas puzzles
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Update:
I have now solved the Compy Skewb many times. I find it an outstanding puzzle! :D :D :D
The challenge is just right, not easy at all, not too hard.
I had contact with a fellow member who got it for Christmas and who has a high opinion on it as well.
If somebody has mastered the Master Skewb and the Dino Skewb, the Compy Skewb is a new challenge. There are new piece types and it is a bit harder than the former mentioned.
For the other aspects, turning, stability, I can confirm my earlier positive statements.
Sigurd wrote:
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Honestly I am not so interested in the Compy Skewb, but as I am mostly a "looks" fan of puzzles, it WILL wind up in my colection at some point :)
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Sigurd, may I ask, why you have said this? Why are you not interested?
In my collection it has a place of honour! :D :D :D

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