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 Post subject: Sky's and Danny's 8x8x8 Cube NOW WITH VIDEO!
PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 3:10 pm 
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About three weeks ago, Sky and I met in quite a remarkable fashion as described in THIS thread. At that time, he described to me a project that he’d been thinking about that excited me very much. Through some hardworking teamwork, we are happy to present to you all our 8x8x8 cube! The concept credit goes wholly to Sky. I designed it in Alibre. We printed two of these in WSF from shapeways and dyed them black with RIT dye. The one in the following pictures is mine, while Sky’s remains disassembled for now. We do not plan on making these available for purchase because we do not want to cause any competition for Verdes and his company producing their 8x8x8 hopefully sometime soon.

I hinted at this puzzle in the “hints to secret ideas thread” saying that my 7x7x7 had gone crazy and ate my 3x3x3, my 2x2x2, and my 4x4x4’s core, and had gotten a little fat around the middle.
At the center of this puzzle lies a 3x3x3 whose corners are extended with a shell to form a 2x2x2 sphere. The corners of each of the triangular pieces of this 2x2x2 shell have a quarter circle cut out of them so that at each intersection of the 2x2x2 is a full cut out circle. It is in this circle that the four center pieces of the 8x8x8 latch onto the 2x2x2 shell and extend upward. They can spin within this circle; this corresponds to an outer layer turn on the 8x8x8. The rest of the 8x8x8 is similar to a V-Cube 7 mechanism with a doubly wide middle layer that was simply split down the middle. This mechanism allows for stable outer turns because of the V-Cube mech, and really stable 4th layer turns, since those are based on the internal 2x2x2.

Ok, without any further ado, here are some pictures! I’ll have a video up soon but I do want to work on breaking it in a little bit further first. Enjoy everyone :]


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A great and actually unintended feature. Misalign the 2x2x2 cuts and the screw holding the 3x3x3 core becomes exposed. With a good length screwdriver, you can change tension without any disassembly!
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Very stably holding it by one of the hanging edges mid-turn.
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Here's the best part; it' a MINI 8x8x8! :D
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Scaled with a Rubik's brand 4x4x4 and a Dayan Guhong 3x3x3
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 Post subject: Re: Sky's and Danny's 8x8x8 Cube!
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Wow! Looks great, Sky told me he had something coming in, but I never saw this coming! :shock:

Amazing work! (Will it be up on Shapeways? ;))

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Kapusta wrote:
Wow! Looks great, Sky told me he had something coming in, but I never saw this coming! :shock:

Amazing work! (Will it be up on Shapeways? ;))


No shapeways upload for the sake of v-cubes

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Wow! awesome job. The mechanism looks like a very clever combination of the new MF8 4x4s and the Verdes mech.

I think this is a much better approach to even-layered big cubes, compared to the Verdes clicking mechanism. Once again, great work!

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I WANT I WANT I WANT!!

Who needs Meffert and Verdes when we have great designers like you :D I need pictures of it with stickers and videos of it turning NOW.

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very interesting design, i also see that the parts are hollowed to themax :lol:

great work hope to see it stickered soon.


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Amazing! :D


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looks really good! :) Congrats!

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Wow! That looks great! Well done. :D :D

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I really want to see it stickered!

It is a really amazing achievement (like the universe breaker: Void petaminx)
Congratulations!

PS: You should have been wait for some more weeks (1-2).
I'll be ready with it's stickers tomorrow...

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Olivér Nagy wrote:
I really want to see it stickered!

It is a really amazing achievement (like the universe breaker: Void petaminx)
Congratulations!

PS: You should have been wait for some more weeks (1-2).
I'll be ready with it's stickers tomorrow...


Thanks for the kind words everyone. And don't worry Oliver, there's no rush. Thanks so much for doing this for us :]

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YAY! :P Fantastic puzzle! I like how you used a mechanism with the new mf8 4x4. Also, does it use a V-Cube mechanism? If it doesn't you can write to Mr. Verdes and work mass production out. Thanks!


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Well sky, you finally got your 8x8. :lol:

Great design danny, exactly how expensive was this to print? with the "mininess" and hollowed out pieces I'd imagine it would be fairly inexpensive (3d printing wise).

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Hollowing out pieces like that does not save as much material as you might think. But it has the potential to make your puzzle turn less good (C4Y gigaminx has many open faces, on which the pieces tend to catch).

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ulmboy556 wrote:
Well sky, you finally got your 8x8. :lol:

Great design danny, exactly how expensive was this to print? with the "mininess" and hollowed out pieces I'd imagine it would be fairly inexpensive (3d printing wise).


It was not too expensive if you consider that there are over 300 parts. It was about 220 for the whole puzzle.

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Hollowing out pieces like that does not save as much material as you might think. But it has the potential to make your puzzle turn less good (C4Y gigaminx has many open faces, on which the pieces tend to catch).


I'd say that this is the biggest flaw in this puzzle's turning. It is very smooth, there are no mech lockups, but it does catch on itself a bit.

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dannyb21892 wrote:

I'd say that this is the biggest flaw in this puzzle's turning. It is very smooth, there are no mech lockups, but it does catch on itself a bit.


You can print some caps and maybe solve this problem.

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Congratulations Danny and Sky! :D I appreciate your decision and your motives not to offer it on Shapeways, though.

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Really cool and nice job u guys ! :D u beat v-cubes lol

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Really cool and nice job u guys ! :D u beat v-cubes lol


I thought the same exact thing :lol:

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Who needs Meffert and Verdes when we have great designers like you

Not to be a wise guy, but I believe those are some great designers as well. However, I must say, I'm shocked to see something like this. Cooldayr and his collaborations have really been stepping it up and making amazing puzzles.

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Really cool and nice job u guys ! u beat v-cubes lol

Not true. Verdes likely has his own cube(s) beyond this stage. In order to beat V-Cubes, you would have to produce these, which as clearly stated is not going to happen. Again, I apologize for being a wise guy.

@Danny and Sky: Is this a good-turning cube? I mean, is this speedsolvable (or at least almost)?

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:lol: Wow!cool!


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Rentlix wrote:
Gus wrote:
Who needs Meffert and Verdes when we have great designers like you

Not to be a wise guy, but I believe those are some great designers as well. However, I must say, I'm shocked to see something like this. Cooldayr and his collaborations have really been stepping it up and making amazing puzzles.

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Really cool and nice job u guys ! u beat v-cubes lol

Not true. Verdes likely has his own cube(s) beyond this stage. In order to beat V-Cubes, you would have to produce these, which as clearly stated is not going to happen. Again, I apologize for being a wise guy.

@Danny and Sky: Is this a good-turning cube? I mean, is this speedsolvable (or at least almost)?


No apology needed. I wholeheartedly agree that I personally should never be compared to Verdes or Meffert. Sky is a different story. He's got a great head for thinking up this stuff. I'm just good in CAD. As for the speedsolvability of this puzzle, I don't think it compares to a V-Cube 7 in terms of quality. But seeing the puzzle in reality now, I have some ideas of how a second version could be a great improvement over this one. Not to say that this one is bad. In my opinion it's a great first shot at a new mechanism concept. I think it's good news that it can be refined though. I'll make a video soon after I do a little more work breaking the puzzle in. Then you can see turning quality for yourself :)

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Simply amazing. Great job.

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Nice! So you ended up using the V-Cube mechanism? I'd suppose that would make the most sense. But it may have been better to ask the permission of the V-Cube company. (Even though it's not being sold commercially.) If I came up with a cube design, I'd at least like the producer to ask me before making his puzzle with my idea. It's not a big deal, but it may be something to look into for any future projects.

But as for your previous 8x8 Sky, did you get the last 3 core pieces? Or did you give up on it awhile ago?

Again, great job!


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Some of it uses a V-cube 7 mechanism but there are elements which make it quite different. I assure you that this is nothing like what V-Cube 8 would be like.

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I thing this puzzle is just amazing please upload a video!!! :shock: :mrgreen:

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video please :D

ehm now make a 10x10x10 ^^ xD


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 Post subject: Re: Sky's and Danny's 8x8x8 Cube NOW WITH VIDEO!
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Due to popular demand, I've got a video up! :)
Here's a link:
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That link is also on the top of the page in the first post. Be sure to post a comment on the video :D

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The puzzle's video's first viewer was quite amazed :mrgreen:

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Wrong, I was first. :D That does look great. Seriously, get in contact with V-CUBEs to see if you can sell your version, because I would certainly buy both! :D

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I was surprised how small it is. To bad the turning isn't better. Still nice work.

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Excellent work. I was waiting to see this one. Well done.

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