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 Post subject: World's First Fully Functional Siamese 3x3x3 V1
PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 11:46 pm 
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I proudly present the world’s first and only Fully Functional Siamese 3x3x3 Cubes. This is the first result of the prototype Rentlix built for me in July. Unlike The Creature however, this puzzle is fully printed in WSF from Shapeways with all 49 pieces dyed black. The stickers are from Dr-Sticker (I expected slightly smaller ones but because I will not sell this puzzle, it doesn’t really matter). As for the quality of the puzzle, the outer 3x3x3 turns work great along with the intermixing cuts. Sadly however, when two layers are turned on a 3x3x3 portion the movement is not as great but it's ok.

Most importantly, the pieces do not fall out during mid rotation.

Now, the pictures!
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Ignore the buldges on the edges from the oversized stickers.


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It is impossible to do this pattern on normal siamese cubes.


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Note both the blue and yellow center pieces are adjacent to other blue and yellow center pieces.

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 Post subject: Re: World's First Fully Functional Siamese 3x3x3 V1
PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 11:48 pm 
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No special turns pictures? :(

great puzzle nonetheless.


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 Post subject: Re: World's First Fully Functional Siamese 3x3x3 V1
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If it makes you happy...
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The strange camera angles are to keep the mechanism hidden. I'm not ready to release it.

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 Post subject: Re: World's First Fully Functional Siamese 3x3x3 V1
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it makes me happy :D grats on figuring out a mechanism for this, very interesting states the pieces can get into, centers can move :o


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 Post subject: Re: World's First Fully Functional Siamese 3x3x3 V1
PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 12:22 am 
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Very cool, but the stickering is making me cry!

Can't you cut them down a bit, we're talking 90 degree angles here, nothing too complex.

Pretty please?

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 Post subject: Re: World's First Fully Functional Siamese 3x3x3 V1
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V1 means You have plans V2?
And I'm really want know structure about it. :D
Great work!

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 Post subject: Re: World's First Fully Functional Siamese 3x3x3 V1
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I'm really impressed that you got this to work, and this puzzle has been on my "Want to build" list for a very long time.

However...

PLEASE get proper stickers for it. This looks just horrendous.

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 Post subject: Re: World's First Fully Functional Siamese 3x3x3 V1
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Very-very-very Good Puzzle!!!
I take off my hat to you ...

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you need new stickers and video

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 Post subject: Re: World's First Fully Functional Siamese 3x3x3 V1
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How on earth...?


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 Post subject: Re: World's First Fully Functional Siamese 3x3x3 V1
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mind blowing! truly groundbreaking! What mechanism could it be using? I have no clue at all!

I am will go ahead and agree with the others, New stickers, and a video please!

WHY will you not sell it?

I have never been the big fan of siamese cubes, but with these. I am pretty much in love!

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 Post subject: Re: World's First Fully Functional Siamese 3x3x3 V1
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Wow! That's great. Phenominal work PuzzleMaster6262. But please cut the stickers down. :D

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 Post subject: Re: World's First Fully Functional Siamese 3x3x3 V1
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Congratulations PuzzleMaster6262!!!!
One more complaint about the stickers, though :roll: :)

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 Post subject: Re: World's First Fully Functional Siamese 3x3x3 V1
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Congratulations! It looks really good! I hope there's a video up soon! :D

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 Post subject: Re: World's First Fully Functional Siamese 3x3x3 V1
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 Post subject: Re: World's First Fully Functional Siamese 3x3x3 V1
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Amazing!!
Will you show a video?

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 Post subject: Re: World's First Fully Functional Siamese 3x3x3 V1
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In some way it reminds me of Tony Fisher's fake 9x9x9 cube... :wink:
But if it is real, than congratulations!

I wont complain for the stickers. Just wait for V2.
(or V-8x8x8... :lol: )

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 Post subject: Re: World's First Fully Functional Siamese 3x3x3 V1
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Please add another request for a video. This is a must see!

As for the stickers, I kind of like them, as they make the puzzle look
like some sort of sweet dessert which is *supposed* to look messy!

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 Post subject: Re: World's First Fully Functional Siamese 3x3x3 V1
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This is insane, beautiful puzzle, but this puzzles deserves more fitting stickers. I would try the F2 stickers. Or trim them yourself :)

But well, this is an amazing puzzle :)

Good job!

Alex :solved:

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 Post subject: Re: World's First Fully Functional Siamese 3x3x3 V1
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I think he has heard enough about the stickers guys :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: World's First Fully Functional Siamese 3x3x3 V1
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What about a Video ? Got to see it in action =P

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 Post subject: Re: World's First Fully Functional Siamese 3x3x3 V1
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Muffet wrote:
I think he has heard enough about the stickers guys :wink:

It's fine. They aren't that bad when your holding it. It looks kinda like colored plastic.

Thank you everyone for the kind words. As soon as the stickers are fixed, I will add new pictures and possibly a video. I am taking things slow because I hope to work on mass-production.

Thanks again for the great comments! :mrgreen:

Edt: Grrr! I can't solve the second half.

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 Post subject: Re: World's First Fully Functional Siamese 3x3x3 V1
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Obviously you did not learn your lesson from your last "big" puzzle. :?


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 Post subject: Re: World's First Fully Functional Siamese 3x3x3 V1
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Hi guys,

The stickers were cut too big, my bad. The new stickers are shipped!

Very nice job Mike! I look forward for you new pictures.

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 Post subject: Re: World's First Fully Functional Siamese 3x3x3 V1
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Wow, great to see this puzzle is finally alive! :D The overlarge stickers don't actually look that bad; However I do agree with the others, that you should either wait until you have a video, to post a puzzle. I for one would like to see the turning quality.

Out of interest, is this design with screws/springs, and therefore can cut corners, or is it a groove mechanism??

sj

PS I personally think that this puzzle made from a '2x2x3' Siamese cubes would be alot more practical; it would have a lot less pieces and would probably be more stable. Will you be building one? :D

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 Post subject: Re: World's First Fully Functional Siamese 3x3x3 V1
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O, why not.

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 Post subject: Re: World's First Fully Functional Siamese 3x3x3 V1
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Great proof of concept, whatever concept that may be :lol:
Can't wait for V2 :wink:
EDIT: I wonder how many different solved states this puzzle has o.O
Can two edges that have the same stickers (identical pieces) be switched (and everything else stays the same)?

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 Post subject: Re: World's First Fully Functional Siamese 3x3x3 V1
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Thanks so much for the video! Glad to see the issue with the pieces falling out is resolved. :)

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 Post subject: Re: World's First Fully Functional Siamese 3x3x3 V1
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Fixing the falling out problem with magnets is cheating in my book. But still, nice puzzle.

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 Post subject: Re: World's First Fully Functional Siamese 3x3x3 V1
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:lol:

The magnets keep this version held together like on a super x. As a result, this version didn't need the locking mechanism. I promise when I finish the v2 in a few weeks it will use the locking mechanism I originally designed; no magnets.

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 Post subject: Re: World's First Fully Functional Siamese 3x3x3 V1
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Great puzzle! But I hope v2 turns a little better :lol:

Good job!

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 Post subject: Re: World's First Fully Functional Siamese 3x3x3 V1
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The super-X is not held together by magnets in any way. it simply stabilizes the mechanism. If the magnets keep the puzzle from falling apart in your puzzle (which i suspect that they do) it is a very different situation than the super-X

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No. They are to stabilize. Without them the pieces squish apart.

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WHOA OMG!!!!!!!! GREAT!!! Finally this puzzle is released!! Will you sell me one!! I have wanted one of these for almost 5 years! Nice build! I can't wait for you to release the mechanism!!!!!!!! :mrgreen: :| :arrow: :idea: :?: :!: :wink: :roll: :twisted: :evil: :cry: :oops: :P :x :lol: 8-) :? :shock: :o :( :) :D


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 Post subject: Re: World's First Fully Functional Siamese 3x3x3 V1
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Finally came across this! As one of those few who know the mechanism, I look at this and, rather than thinking 'what an awesome puzzle!', I think, 'What took so long?' I can vouch for him- the magnets are just one quick solution to one of the problems. The magnets are not necesary and, with just more time put into the mechanism, there would be no need.

Clever mechanism and good work nonetheless. I would comment on the stickering, but I don't want to be a hypocrite.

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