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 Post subject: fully functional siamese 2x2's
PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 5:38 pm 
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Hey all, These are my fully functional siamese 2x2's

not much to say as it has been done before, but I'm pretty confident my mechanism is entirely different. This puzzle only has 14 parts in it!

The puzzle turns very very well, but it does have a problem; after a 90 degree deep cut, parts can fall out. I knew this before ordering the puzzle, but I went ahead and ordered it anyway. I'm pretty happy i did, because its not really a problem when playing with the puzzle at all. the 90 degree cut need to lined up perfectly for the parts to fall out.

Hopefully I will get a video up soon, but my camera isn't currently working.






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 Post subject: Re: fully functional siamese 2x2's
PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 5:39 pm 
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Looks great with the stickers, Eric! :D

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 Post subject: Re: fully functional siamese 2x2's
PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 5:56 pm 
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This is the same mech as mine. Congratulations(just please don't sell a bunch :lol: )

Rentlix's version also has the same problem with pieces falling out. It took a lot of time to fix that on my versions.

EDT: This IS different as the final picture shows but it is still the exact same mechanism. In the coming days I will demonstrate how the mech works so please hold off for a while. PM me if you are interested in keeping the pieces from falling out :D

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 Post subject: Re: fully functional siamese 2x2's
PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 1:17 am 
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That looks very easy, but very deceiving. Well done, it looks great.

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 Post subject: Re: fully functional siamese 2x2's
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Well done! I can't wait to see the video! It's a pity those pieces fall out midturn. Do you have any plan to do a redesign to fix it?

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 Post subject: Re: fully functional siamese 2x2's
PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 4:30 pm 
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pirsquared wrote:
Well done! I can't wait to see the video! It's a pity those pieces fall out midturn. Do you have any plan to do a redesign to fix it?

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It is impossible to keep the pieces falling out using normal twisty puzzle concepts. Anything designed to keep the pieces from falling out also would block rotation when the pieces are needing to rotate along the 2x2x2 cuts. PM me (not just pirsquared) if you are interested in learning a couple of the solutions I discovered.

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 Post subject: Re: fully functional siamese 2x2's
PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:33 am 
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very nice puzzle!!! :P :P


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 Post subject: Re: fully functional siamese 2x2's
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Urgh!
How unfair.
This is one kind of a classification challenge. I think I give up...


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 Post subject: Re: fully functional siamese 2x2's
PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 4:35 pm 
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FF siamese 2x2 is to Domino as
Flop Easy is to Floppy Cube?
Forgive me if I am wrong :oops:

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 Post subject: Re: fully functional siamese 2x2's
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JLO wrote:
FF siamese 2x2 is to Domino as
Flop Easy is to Floppy Cube?
Forgive me if I am wrong :oops:

Not at all. Otherwise it would change shape. Also this is abump :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: fully functional siamese 2x2's
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PuzzleMaster6262 wrote:
JLO wrote:
FF siamese 2x2 is to Domino as
Flop Easy is to Floppy Cube?
Forgive me if I am wrong :oops:

Not at all. Otherwise it would change shape. Also this is abump :roll:

Woops! Didn't even notice the date of Andreas' post. Sorry :oops:

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 Post subject: Re: fully functional siamese 2x2's
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Great looking puzzle... but this is not your idea. Somebody with the youtube name 1232121212321212 made a video about this puzzle (it would be hilarious if this were you! :wink: ). Anyways, still think it is a great step to Tony Fisher's siamese cube because he always wanted to build one that was fully functional.


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 Post subject: Re: fully functional siamese 2x2's
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It's PuzzleMaster6262's idea actually, but Rentlix had the equipment to make it. Still, Rentlix's is hand made and this is 3d printed. I'm just looking forward to the day when someone works out how to prevent pieces coming out. :)

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 Post subject: Re: fully functional siamese 2x2's
PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 11:44 am 
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SEBUVER wrote:
It's PuzzleMaster6262's idea actually, but Rentlix had the equipment to make it. Still, Rentlix's is hand made and this is 3d printed. I'm just looking forward to the day when someone works out how to prevent pieces coming out. :)

Yes. I designed it, Rentlix made the first prototype, and Eric after seeing ours designed his own. The mechs are the same except Rentlix's is declustered. Very soon when I show the mech you will know what I mean. Also as soon as the stickers arrive, I will be posting mine :D

Also, that day is long ago!

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 Post subject: Re: fully functional siamese 2x2's
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PuzzleMaster6262 wrote:
pirsquared wrote:
Well done! I can't wait to see the video! It's a pity those pieces fall out midturn. Do you have any plan to do a redesign to fix it?

-π (Eitan)

It is impossible to keep the pieces falling out using normal twisty puzzle concepts. Anything designed to keep the pieces from falling out also would block rotation when the pieces are needing to rotate along the 2x2x2 cuts. PM me (not just pirsquared) if you are interested in learning a couple of the solutions I discovered.



I'm interested myself :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: fully functional siamese 2x2's
PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 11:59 am 
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just to be clear, I think the idea for fully functional SIAMESE 2x2's has been around for a long time.


video to come later today.

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 Post subject: Re: fully functional siamese 2x2's
PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 1:29 pm 
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Sorry it took so long, but here is the video

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 Post subject: Re: fully functional siamese 2x2's
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gingervergo wrote:
just to be clear, I think the idea for fully functional 2x2's has been around for a long time.


I think they've been mass produced for a long time too. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: fully functional siamese 2x2's
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That looks great! What size is it?

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