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 Post subject: Cubic 4x4x5
PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 6:54 pm 
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A puzzle that I was very pleased to get the solution, very entertaining. :)

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Very clean, pleasing appeal to it.

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 Post subject: Re: Cubic 4x4x5
PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 7:48 pm 
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Very nice puzzle.

Technically I think that's a bandaged 6x6x6, not a 4x4x5 because of the way you allow mixing turns. Here's a pic of what I think you're doing.
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 Post subject: Re: Cubic 4x4x5
PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 10:13 pm 
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I think he may have made this from an ES 4x4.

This is a great puzzle! I was actually planning on doing something similar to this using an ES 4x4, and I think I'll still do it.

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 Post subject: Re: Cubic 4x4x5
PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 10:47 pm 
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This is awesome! My c4u 3x3x5 has been my favorite puzzle to solve since I got it, and this looks even more interesting. Great work, I hope I can have one of these for myself someday.


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 Post subject: Re: Cubic 4x4x5
PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 12:16 am 
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pirsquared wrote:
I think he may have made this from an ES 4x4.

This is a great puzzle! I was actually planning on doing something similar to this using an ES 4x4, and I think I'll still do it.

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I understand how it'd be done, and it's beyond my abilities, I think.

I'll work on exactly how to do it and use my ES4x4x4 if I think I can get it done.

It looks spectacular.

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 Post subject: Re: Cubic 4x4x5
PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 12:46 am 
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isn't this about as easy as the lazyman's 3x3x5? Just cut the two middle layers of the eastsheen 4x4 enough to reveal the inner hidden layer, then put in the eastsheen 5x5 center parts...
oh wait...
the eastsheen 5x5 parts are a different size though... how did he make that middle layer?

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 Post subject: Re: Cubic 4x4x5
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Although I like the look of the 'regular' 4x4x5 better, the unique way of scrambling on this one is amazing! must be very difficult.

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 Post subject: Re: Cubic 4x4x5
PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 8:30 am 
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[strike]I don't think it'd be too bad. I'm thinking about this as if it was a 5x5x5. Solving centers should be fairly straight forward except for the last 2. On edge pairing you just have to do the 2 and 3 edges separately. I think that part would be fun because it'd be easier to find the pieces. During the whole edge pairing process you will have to be careful and make sure all the pieces are lined up. Then just solve like a normal 3x3x3.[/strike] (pretend strike through worked :P)

After writing that I realize that you can't do normal edge paring on the 3 edged pieces because there's only 4 of them. You need minimum 5 if you want the buffer location and the puzzle to not lock up when you try to do the move. I guess you'd have to adapt it to do everything in place.

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 Post subject: Re: Cubic 4x4x5
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I think this puzzle is made from a 4x4x4 ES Cube. Some inside edges become outside edges and the original outside edges are cut down. Does it?
However, my English is not good. If you can understand all what I say here, it's incredible.
Again, good job! I love it


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 Post subject: Re: Cubic 4x4x5
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I can't see the video from work, but I was wondering if the center layer of the 5 layer part can move by itself.

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 Post subject: Re: Cubic 4x4x5
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Yes, it can. Which is what is a little bit confusing to me. This must mean that he either made it from scratch, or he removed the stop from the ES 4x4, which takes a significant amount of dremeling.

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 Post subject: Re: Cubic 4x4x5
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pirsquared wrote:
Yes, it can. Which is what is a little bit confusing to me. This must mean that he either made it from scratch, or he removed the stop from the ES 4x4, which takes a significant amount of dremeling.

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Means that I'll be getting rid of that stop, too. Just wanted to think my through the process of building (I think I'm getting there) and work together what pieces to glue.

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 Post subject: Re: Cubic 4x4x5
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Great idea and the quality looks superb!


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 Post subject: Re: Cubic 4x4x5
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Ok, I see that they are interested as I have built this puzzle, so I'll tell the process.

The puzzle is based on a 4x4 Eastsheen.

First, I cut the 2 intermediate layers to half its thickness (obvious) to insert the central layer of the final puzzle.

Then I extended the inner part of the 4x4 which is situated between the 2 edges, and also extended the internal parts located near the center to create the centers of the core layer.

With this, the puzzle is complete in terms of its appearance, just missing the 4x4 layers lock.

Ok, at first I cut part of the 4x4 lock, but this generated problems to be narrower blocking internal parts getting to skip the lock.

At the end I decided to remove the lock completely and paste the appropiate pieces. :)

I hope you understand my bad English.

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 Post subject: Re: Cubic 4x4x5
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It is nice to see new chino-puzzles ¡¡

Chino : I can´t see your website, is it down?

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 Post subject: Re: Cubic 4x4x5
PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 8:13 pm 
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oh, so the middle layer is made from scratch?
I really enjoy the idea, at it seems like a good mod for beginner's to try out.
And of course, an easy and good looking mod for the experts. :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Cubic 4x4x5
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Good idea, Great job ! :)

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 Post subject: Re: Cubic 4x4x5
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nice puzzle good job


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 Post subject: Re: Cubic 4x4x5
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Chino wrote:
Ok, I see that they are interested as I have built this puzzle, so I'll tell the process.

The puzzle is based on a 4x4 Eastsheen.

First, I cut the 2 intermediate layers to half its thickness (obvious) to insert the central layer of the final puzzle.

Then I extended the inner part of the 4x4 which is situated between the 2 edges, and also extended the internal parts located near the center to create the centers of the core layer.

With this, the puzzle is complete in terms of its appearance, just missing the 4x4 layers lock.

Ok, at first I cut part of the 4x4 lock, but this generated problems to be narrower blocking internal parts getting to skip the lock.

At the end I decided to remove the lock completely and paste the appropiate pieces. :)

I hope you understand my bad English.


As you said here and with my opinion, it seems to be that I true. Does it?


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 Post subject: Re: Cubic 4x4x5
PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 8:35 am 
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It does look great, very clean finish, as with all your puzzles.

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