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jmcclure
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Post subject: a proper hexaminx? Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:47 pm |
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its such a simple idea that im sure its already been done, i know that a hexaminx is nothing like a megaminx, but since a megaminx is made of pentagons is there any twisty puzzle mage of hexagons or even decagons?
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Retr0
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Post subject: Re: a proper hexaminx? Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 1:07 pm |
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Joined: Thu Apr 16, 2009 7:52 am Location: Caister on sea, Norfolk, England
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought a hexaminx was made out of a megaminx. Called a hexaminx because it has 6 sides.. I think I know what you're thinking though. It's look somewhat like a honeycomb as a web. I think, assuming it's be a face turning puzzle, all faces would look like this:  [/URL] I have no idea how many faces it'd have, though. I think 14?
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APJ
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Post subject: Re: a proper hexaminx? Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 1:11 pm |
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There can't be one just made of regular hexagons I think. There isn't a Platonic solid with hexagonal faces, or even decagons. It may be possible with non-regular hexagons but with regular hexagons it is impossible. Sorry Retr0, not even with 14 sides. Alex
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Ryan Thompson
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Post subject: Re: a proper hexaminx? Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 1:12 pm |
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Joined: Fri Jan 27, 2006 3:36 pm Location: Boston, MA
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No polyhedron consists of only hexagonal faces...at least as far as I know. With only hexagonal faces, the geometry just doesn't line up. You have to include some other types in there...most commonly pentagons to make a truncated icosahedron.
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Retr0
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Post subject: Re: a proper hexaminx? Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 1:25 pm |
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Joined: Thu Apr 16, 2009 7:52 am Location: Caister on sea, Norfolk, England
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Oh, darn. I hoped I was offering a kicka$$ contribution..
So the platonic solids are - Tetrahedron, cube, dodecahedron, octahedron and icosahedron?
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gingervergo
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Post subject: Re: a proper hexaminx? Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 1:25 pm |
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the other people were right when they posted in this thread. Tony Fishers hexaminx was made from a megaminx, there is no platonic solid that consists only of hexagons, and a puzzle can be made using hexagons and other shapes. this is a picture of lee Tutt's Tuttminx, which is composed of hexagonal and pentagonal sides. this is most likely the closest possible outcome to the puzzle you imagined. 
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Alex
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Post subject: Re: a proper hexaminx? Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 1:48 pm |
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Joined: Sat Jan 14, 2006 9:36 am Location: Europe
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It is easy to see this cannot be done if the faces are regular hexagons. If you have three regular hexagons touching at a vertex (and pairwise along the corresponding edges) you will only get a flat shape. You also cannot have less (1 is nonsense and 2 would only glue one atop another) or more (if you tried putting together 4 or more you would get negative curvature and the pieces would never close, a bit like building a hyperbolic plane out of 7 equilateral triangles per vertex). Here's an argument that does not need regularity of the faces: Assume there are F faces. Each hexagonal face has 6 edges and every edge is shared by 2 faces, so there are E = 6F/2 = 3F edges. By Euler polyhedral formula we have 2 = V - E + F = V - 3F + F = V - 2F or V = 2F + 2. Assuming that n faces meet at each vertex we have V = 6F/n vertices. So 6F/n = 2F + 2. We have 3F = nF + n or n(F+1) = 3F. Both sides are integers. F and F+1 are pairwise prime, so F+1 divides 3. The only positive integer with this property is F=2. Our puzzle would have only 2 faces. Anyone wants to write this out for decagons? 
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maarten
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Post subject: Re: a proper hexaminx? Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 1:16 pm |
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The classification of regular and irregular polygons with regular faces is already complete since 1969 (Johnson, Zalgaller). We have the 5 Platonic solids, there are Archimedean Solids (including two infinite families of N-sided prisms and anti-prisms) and irregular 'Johnson Solids'. The list including pictures can be found on http://mathworld.wolfram.com/JohnsonSolid.html. Maybe Oskar can create a Johson Twisty? One other remark: be careful with using the Euler formula: it is NOT valid for the void cube!
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Alex
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Post subject: Re: a proper hexaminx? Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 2:04 pm |
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Joined: Sat Jan 14, 2006 9:36 am Location: Europe
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maarten wrote: One other remark: be careful with using the Euler formula: it is NOT valid for the void cube! No problem, just use V - E + F = -8 for the void cube 
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