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 Post subject: Master Triagonal Domino
PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 1:45 am 
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Another of Alokin's cool designs. This one is the big brother to his Triagonal Domino. It's a 2-layer triangular prism. Yet another first of its kind.
Well done, Nikola!

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 Post subject: Re: Master Triagonal Domino
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Great work as usual! You and Alokin make a great team!

The puzzle looks nearly flawless. How does it turn? By the looks of it its a little loose, but still amazing.

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 Post subject: Re: Master Triagonal Domino
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Looks excellent! :D Great work (Both of you!) :)

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 Post subject: Re: Master Triagonal Domino
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I am envious of your skill.

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 Post subject: Re: Master Triagonal Domino
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Thanks guys.
Garrett (when did you change your alias?!?) - you're right. It's a bit loose, but turns really well along the axis, but between the two layers, it sticks. I think it's because it's still very fresh resin, so I have to give it some time. I also want to sand the insides down a bit in case it's inconsistent. Although I had enough core parts printed, I wanted to cast this one to see how it performs. So far so good. It's quite sturdy.

As for us making a good team- I don't think he needs me. :) Looking at his Triangular Domino, he's doing just fine on his own. I'm just glad he shares his designs.

I have a couple more projects going on at the moment, but with work being so crazy, I haven't had much time to devote to the building. I owe so many people stuff- sticker templates, puzzles for trades, and for sale. I have a bunch of things I want to make for myself too. I just got two of Dave Litwin's Neon DIY kits. I'm REALLY looking forward to building those. Now I just have to find the time.

Wow. I'm getting my own thread off-topic. :?


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 Post subject: Re: Master Triagonal Domino
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Fantastic puzzle!
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As for us making a good team- I don't think he needs me. :) Looking at his Triangular Domino, he's doing just fine on his own. I'm just glad he shares his designs.


I can´t see if you seriously don´t understand or if you´re joking...

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 Post subject: Re: Master Triagonal Domino
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I meant what I said. His first cast project, and it looks flawless.


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 Post subject: Re: Master Triagonal Domino
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Nikola, this looks absolutely great! You are becoming a master of puzzle building!

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 Post subject: Re: Master Triagonal Domino
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Awesome puzzle!

I can't wait to see what you come up with next ^_^

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 Post subject: Re: Master Triagonal Domino
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Very nice!! Maybe we'll see the 'Elite Version' next.


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 Post subject: Re: Master Triagonal Domino
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Supercool.


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 Post subject: Re: Master Triagonal Domino
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I just want to say, I'm very confused. I can usually make at least a bad guess at a new puzzle's mech, but with this one I'm clueless. Good job!

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 Post subject: Re: Master Triagonal Domino
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Very very nice!

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 Post subject: Re: Master Triagonal Domino
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This is pretty cool, although given the 'trivial tips' the mechanism is probably way simpler than most people would guess. Incidentally, there are actually something like 30 possible puzzles of this type (a triangular domino with two depths of side-face centered turns). Think you could make the one of the Master Triagonal Domino style puzzles which looks like a Pyraminx on top? It'd be awfully pretty. (Hint: Use a UFO ;-) )

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 Post subject: Re: Master Triagonal Domino
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Once again, very nice. It took me a while to see the 2 layer trigonal prism in this design and how it was turned into a master version. I prefer the 2 layer trigonal prism though.

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 Post subject: Re: Master Triagonal Domino
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Wow very very nice I love it! :D

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 Post subject: Re: Master Triagonal Domino
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Just amazing, You guys make a great great team.

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 Post subject: Re: Master Triagonal Domino
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Yet again, nice work both of you. I guess the corners are "pegged" extensions to the sides of the original design? It is a very imaginative modification to the original! As stated by others, it makes it look much more complex.

I look forward to more....


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 Post subject: Re: Master Triagonal Domino
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Absolutely incredible!
Seeing this makes me want to give up puzzle building as there's no way I can produce something like this!
It's amaising how puzzle building progressed since the start of Twisty Megasite.
From sticker and shape variations to the whole new level of 3D printing of puzzles and even new internal mechanisms!
Wow!
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 Post subject: Re: Master Triagonal Domino
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The sticking between the two layers is a big problem in puzzles of this general design. A good way of getting around that problem is instead of having a core with a big slice and building up from it, have a core which only has one layer but has all of the other slices in it, then make only the outermost layer have the big slice by making two tracks in the core for the outer pieces to slide along, and gluing a single outer piece to the core. That way everything is sliding along tracks, and the top and bottom layers don't touch each other directly when doing the big slice, so they're much less prone to stick.

Yeah, it requires reworking the entire mechanism from scratch, but I for one think it's a better approach.


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 Post subject: Re: Master Triagonal Domino
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Wow Frank! :)
Amazing work as usual

Is it hard to solve?
I'm still unable to solve my Trigonal Domino everytime (I need no imparity probs...).. :cry:


Anyway, again, Bravo Frank!
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 Post subject: Re: Master Triagonal Domino
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It's not that hard for the most part, but there's an interesting parity problem I can't figure out. Two of the little tiny pieces are swapped top to bottom. I just need a little more time to figure it out. Fun puzzle tho.


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 Post subject: Re: Master Triagonal Domino
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I discovered this is actually a cut down ´normal´ triagonal domino, with twistable ectensions, done like this:


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 Post subject: Re: Master Triagonal Domino
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i love this even more thatn the original triangular domino!

but i still love both of them, i cant wait to get my hands on either one of em

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