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 Post subject: easy and save cost 3x3x2.... by...tpm
PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 12:11 am 
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easy and save cost 3x3x2.... by...tpm
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:D hi every body, my last mod is 3x3x2 base on only one of 3x3normal,that method as same as 3x3x4 is not finish.Only 2 center layer finished. Are there any body ever do like this?
sorry with my languege.
and VDO is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jxHY0hnylo
and more here http://www.thailandcube.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11920


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 Post subject: Re: easy and save cost 3x3x2.... by...tpm
PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 12:15 am 
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Thats a very nice job!
I think we were just talking about this in another thread.
This puzzle looks like it has a very smooth turn.

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 Post subject: Re: easy and save cost 3x3x2.... by...tpm
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sickk build but i still dont get it that much. mech looks kinda like a slim tower?? eh? not sure .. man i will never understand these types of mods

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 Post subject: Re: easy and save cost 3x3x2.... by...tpm
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:shock: Does it change shape?

The middle layer's hidden edges remind me of the Eastsheen 2x2x2. It's a nice idea. It looks like you only need to cut down the pieces to make them fit closer to the core. Or is there anything special that needs to be done?


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 Post subject: Re: easy and save cost 3x3x2.... by...tpm
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Wow, excellent work. I have the masters for this puzzle sitting around somewhere (based on Jin's 3x3x4) but never made molds. Much respect for making it handbuilt :)

Believe it or not you are just a few steps away from making a 3x3x4. Judging by the quality here you definitely have the skills :D

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 Post subject: Re: easy and save cost 3x3x2.... by...tpm
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Impressive build. It looks like you did it a bit like the Russian Domino is made, which I believe is also kind of like Katsuhiko Okamoto did his 3x3x2, as was mentioned here: viewtopic.php?p=105096

From all the scrambled pictures, am I right that you haven't bandaged the mechanism?

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 Post subject: Re: easy and save cost 3x3x2.... by...tpm
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Thomas wrote:
Impressive build. It looks like you did it a bit like the Russian Domino is made, which I believe is also kind of like Katsuhiko Okamoto did his 3x3x2, as was mentioned here: viewtopic.php?p=105096

From all the scrambled pictures, am I right that you haven't bandaged the mechanism?

Thomas


I was just about to say that it looked like a Russian domino.

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 Post subject: Re: easy and save cost 3x3x2.... by...tpm
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doesn´t the center extension on the 3x3x6 have to be round?

???could the Second and fifth layer even turn???

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 Post subject: Re: easy and save cost 3x3x2.... by...tpm
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Kickflip1993 wrote:
doesn´t the center extension on the 3x3x6 have to be round?

the white and the black turn independently

Kickflip1993 wrote:
???could the Second and fifth layer even turn???


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:shock: AMAZING!

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 Post subject: Re: easy and save cost 3x3x2.... by...tpm
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I thought that on a standard cube, cubie size is 19 mm and turning circle size is 38? That wouldn't leave you enough room to do this transform. At 19 and 35, it just might work, although I would think the center's sanded that far down might be a bit weak, structurally.


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 Post subject: Re: easy and save cost 3x3x2.... by...tpm
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I cut down two side center to mush as possible
a high of this cube is 39.5 mm.It over standard 1.5 mm.
and more vdo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rv44CDTAqgY


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 Post subject: Re: easy and save cost 3x3x2.... by...tpm
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If you use the central core from a Rubik's Mirror Block you can have a central core that will fit inside of 38mm and the puzzle should not change shape and be a "true" 2x3x3 Domino. The central core of a Mirror Block is a little bit smaller, it maybe makes a 34-36mm circle inside while a standard Rubik's Cube has a 38mm circle.

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Hm, that's an interesting thought. Do you happen to know for sure if the Mirror Blocks on Dealextreme ($20-22 shipped) are genuine or fakes? I can't tell from the pictures, and I've been holding off on buying them a little. Is the price, at least, consistent with wholesale prices in the area of hong kong plus a very little for profit and shipping costs? If something is fake, DX generally also charges fake prices...


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Here. If you consider the 28%-off price, there's plenty of margin. If not, you end up at about 22 USD, I think.

Same thing with that e-bay 3x3x1 preorder, BTW. It's only 800 yen at Amazon. Even adding the 24% you end up nowhere near 30 USD.


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Jin H Kim wrote:
If you use the central core from a Rubik's Mirror Block you can have a central core that will fit inside of 38mm and the puzzle should not change shape and be a "true" 2x3x3 Domino. The central core of a Mirror Block is a little bit smaller, it maybe makes a 34-36mm circle inside while a standard Rubik's Cube has a 38mm circle.


Could you try to illustrate this for me? I am having trouble understanding how the core would keep it from changing shape.

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Wow, looks awesome! I want to try this sometime, but it probably wont turn out good! :D

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Here. If you consider the 28%-off price, there's plenty of margin. If not, you end up at about 22 USD, I think.

Same thing with that e-bay 3x3x1 preorder, BTW. It's only 800 yen at Amazon. Even adding the 24% you end up nowhere near 30 USD.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but no shipping outside of Japan. I just found that out myself. Don't shoot the messenger! :mrgreen:

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Jhardman wrote:
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but no shipping outside of Japan. I just found that out myself. Don't shoot the messenger! :mrgreen:

we all know that they do not ship out of japan

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ihatefrauwahlgren wrote:
Jin H Kim wrote:
If you use the central core from a Rubik's Mirror Block you can have a central core that will fit inside of 38mm and the puzzle should not change shape and be a "true" 2x3x3 Domino. The central core of a Mirror Block is a little bit smaller, it maybe makes a 34-36mm circle inside while a standard Rubik's Cube has a 38mm circle.


Could you try to illustrate this for me? I am having trouble understanding how the core would keep it from changing shape.


What he means is that, apparently, the little bits on the edges and corners that make up the 3x3x3 mechanism combine into a slightly smaller turning circle on the Mirror Blocks version, and because that circle is smaller than the thickness of a domino it will work slightly better than when the circle is exactly the thickness of two cubies (the entire domino is that turning circle plus a few mm for the centers thick, which means the cubies are slightly loose).


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Bigandrewgold wrote:
Jhardman wrote:
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but no shipping outside of Japan. I just found that out myself. Don't shoot the messenger! :mrgreen:

we all know that they do not ship out of japan


Wow, SORRY. It sounded like Alex was telling him to order from Amazon. I thought I said don't shoot the messenger, even if he's a little late.

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ihatefrauwahlgren wrote:
Jin H Kim wrote:
If you use the central core from a Rubik's Mirror Block you can have a central core that will fit inside of 38mm and the puzzle should not change shape and be a "true" 2x3x3 Domino. The central core of a Mirror Block is a little bit smaller, it maybe makes a 34-36mm circle inside while a standard Rubik's Cube has a 38mm circle.


Could you try to illustrate this for me? I am having trouble understanding how the core would keep it from changing shape.


What he means is that, apparently, the little bits on the edges and corners that make up the 3x3x3 mechanism combine into a slightly smaller turning circle on the Mirror Blocks version, and because that circle is smaller than the thickness of a domino it will work slightly better than when the circle is exactly the thickness of two cubies (the entire domino is that turning circle plus a few mm for the centers thick, which means the cubies are slightly loose).


Thank you for that explanation. I think I understand what you are saying. I think I just wasn't thinking quite right. Oh well, that is what a late Saturday night does to you! :)

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ihatefrauwahlgren wrote:

Thank you for that explanation. I think I understand what you are saying. I think I just wasn't thinking quite right. Oh well, that is what a late Saturday night does to you! :)

-Grant


Yea that's pretty much it (If I've read it correctly myself despite being very tired). The smaller radius of the Mirror Block means that the outside pieces would prevent the sort of scrambling you see in the puzzle in this thread. It would also allow you to make a true 57mm x 57mm x 38mm puzzle.

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It looks like a fine piece of technique inside, well done!

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