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 Post subject: Drewseph's Praxis Cube
PostPosted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 12:33 am 
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"A term in use since Aristotle, to whom praxis is one of the three basic activities of human beings."
"Praxis is the process by which a theory, lesson, or skill is enacted or practiced"

And so I decided to take on the challenge of creating what I now consider the most mind-boggling puzzle in the world.

All 3d printed parts....

This can be frightening....

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Um, wow. I don't even know what to say :oops: . It looks gorgeous. How many arms on the core? I honestly have no idea.

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I don't even know what to say. This just blows my mind.
Simply amazing.


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Mindblowing. :shock: That video really didn't seem to do it justice, perhaps you were a little hesitant to scramble it? ;) I certainly would be.


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http://drewseph.zophar.net/MSkewb_Praxis.MPG

I scramble it a lot more after I know I'm gonna be taking it apart again =)

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14 armed core?

WOWOWOWOW!!!!!

to think only 10 months ago no one knew who you were...

also, is it shape-changing and/or jumbleable?

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14 armed core?

WOWOWOWOW!!!!!

to think only 10 months ago no one knew who you were...

also, is it shape-changing and/or jumbleable?


Watch the video ;)


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Simply amazing.

I am going to take a guess and say that this is a face turning octahedron in the form of a cube.
Am I right?

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TheCube wrote:
to think only 10 months ago no one knew who you were...

I'm pretty sure his family knew who he was 10 months ago. :)


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Maybe if I wasn't so drunk I'd be able to understand it better, but for now, that thing is boggling my mind and I LOVE IT.

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this is amazing and mind boggling

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Really beautiful Drew! Congratulations!

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 Post subject: Re: Drewseph's Praxis Cube
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How do you even come up with something like this!

Also, are the opposite sides the same color because they're mirror images ofeach other, or in order to make it half as hard to solve, since there's almost no logic to this thing!

Just amazing. I think there will be at least 4 of your puzzles in the top ten of greatest puzzles of the year.

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WOWOOWOWOWOW.

Puzzle of the year!:D

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It looks amazing! I love the look of the curves on the flat faces.

Is it an "Axis" version of your Master Skewb with the 8 corners hidden?
-the cuts look like a higher order version of Tim's Skewskewb.

Where are the cats? The pictures look incomplete without them!


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Very very nice! I love the spherical cuts... I might want to experiment with those :-)

This puzzle is going to be a great challenge. Does anyone dare try to calculate how many combinations this ABS plastic miracle has?

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Wait.. WHAT!?!


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xsportx wrote:
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Simply amazing.

I am going to take a guess and say that this is a face turning octahedron in the form of a cube.
Am I right?
Simply amazing.

I am going to take a guess and say that this is a face turning octahedron in the form of a cube.
Am I right?


I think you are right. The new face turning octahedron has the same number of pieces that turn, and has three layers "everywhere" like a 3x3x3 cube just like the praxis cube. (I don't know how to explain this better! :? ) Plus I count eight segments that turn. Two corners of the praxis cube plus the 6 sides of the cube (though a bit tiltet). It is crazy how the cube is arranged in comparison to the old octahedron that was "around" the mechanism.
I guess this cube is 10 times harder to solve than the octahedron though. Not like solving a bump cube whith imagening the usual 3x3x3 which is not so hard, or even solving a golden cube when knowing a skewb. I never solved a golden cube but I bet its easier. :)
Anyway I have to say that this puzzle is really amazing. To Drewseph: Did you built this simultaneously with your awesome Master Skewb? ( :shock: )

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i don't get how it's 14 armed....?

two corners..
and 6 faces isn't it?
what is the other 6?


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 Post subject: Re: Drewseph's Praxis Cube
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Wow, absolutely amazing. Keep up the fantastic work Drew, this is simply unbelievable.
I honestly don't know what else to say that hasn't already been said.
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Helios- I think some of the axises(sp?) are the corners, not just the 6 faces.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.


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cubefan8 wrote:
Wow, absolutely amazing. Keep up the fantastic work Drew, this is simply unbelievable.
I honestly don't know what else to say that hasn't already been said.
:D

Helios- I think some of the axises(sp?) are the corners, not just the 6 faces.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.


i believe you are correct, and helios: just becasue a puzzle is a cube and has 6 faces doesnt mean it turns on those sides

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Great job Andrew!

I just don't understand how you can build these things so fast?

Keep up the mind "PUZZLING" work!

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 Post subject: Re: Drewseph's Praxis Cube
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cubefan8 wrote:
Helios- I think some of the axises(sp?) are the corners, not just the 6 faces.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

I think that two of the axes are on the corners, which would make it an eight armed spider. I think that is also what Helios was saying.


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 Post subject: Re: Drewseph's Praxis Cube
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My brain just exploded.

I can't even begin to see what it could possibly be!

I'm lost for words. This is amazing.

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theres nothing that I could say that would match the greatness of this puzzle, how do you do it?
like how do you design these things

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aliengrey wrote:
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14 armed core?

WOWOWOWOW!!!!!

to think only 10 months ago no one knew who you were...

also, is it shape-changing and/or jumbleable?


Watch the video ;)


i still can't tell if its jumbleable

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 Post subject: Re: Drewseph's Praxis Cube
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To anyone who can't understand this puzzle yet:

Praxis : Face-turning octahedron :: Hexaminx : Megaminx

Well, kind of, anyway. But it is based on the FTO mech.

Edit: Well Drew says it is actually a 4-armed spider inside, so there goes that. But the piece configuration is still similar.


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This is just more proof that Drewseph is the worlds top puzzle designer and builder.
Don't miss this one Noah!

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Drew, are there any plans to produce a "non-confusing" version of this puzzle, where each cut is centered around one vertex?


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seems like everybody is so interested in this thing, that everyone is ignoreing the master skewb

you should have posted them at different times

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To everyone,

Thanks so much for your positive feedback. I appreciate the curiosity about guessing the mechanism. Truth is, its just a 4-armed core, on an axis, and adjusted cuts to remove the centers and corners. the result is a quite visually pleasant puzzle to look at, and turn. I'm glad it looks more complex than this ^_^

I think what makes this puzzle so difficult and confusing is that while the 2 corner tips that meet look identical, the parts are completely different internally.

@Arcrobe; I did post them at diff times =)

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well i meant like a week in time difference

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Wow, I've missed so much in my absence from the forum. That is just simply amazing. The slices are diffent shapes and that is wha personally throws me off.

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This is just more proof that Drewseph is the worlds top puzzle designer and builder.
Don't miss this one Noah!


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After reading your info and staring for ten minutes I think I am just starting to get it. What a beautiful idea. Love the spherical cuts (could you use these on the Rouleaux Tetrahedron to mirror the curve of the skin?). I have wanted to design something with non-flat rotation planes (cones or sphere sections) for a while, but so little time, so much to do. It must open up loads of possibilities for new puzzles.

I have admired all your earlier work, though alot of it is to do with very cleverly designed and technically accomplished extensions (complexities, "Giga", "Tera" what have you), but here you are really thinking sideways.

It is so imaginative and different, once again, you move a step ahead.

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that is a monster scrambled.

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Looks like I'm late praising Drew's newest artwork.
Maybe it would be nice to have a poll not only about the top puzzle 2008
but also about the best designer 2008.
There have been very inventive ideas around this year.

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Once again Drew, amazing work. As for my guess for the mechanisme...could this be an "axis" style master skewb?

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drew are you going to newark? if so will this beast be there?

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Um...Wow... :D :D :D :mrgreen: :mrgreen: I don't know what else to say.

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drew are you going to newark? if so will this beast be there?


Drew told me earlier that he is not planning on going to newark

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Drewseph the BEST!!!!!! :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

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I think this wonderful puzzle look like the following figure on each face when turned into regular shape (octahedron).

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Four non-adjacent (with no comman edges) faces turn at the middle of the cutting-edges, while the other four faces turn at a third (or two thirds).

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This puzzle is not an Octohedron, I already explained above what the mechanism is. also the faces really look like this......\


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Thanks for your reply. I have to say it is really hard to see the mechanism though I had read your description many times.

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Its a modification of the master skewb which is a modification of the vcube mechanism.

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wait..

so the only things that turn are the two corners and the 6 sides right???


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No, it only turns on 8 axises[sp?], the equivalent of the 8 corners of the master skewb


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I keep thinking when I went to bed last night, and thought it should look like this on each face. A modification of Master Tetrahedron.

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