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 Post subject: *Stickered*: Pillowed 5x5x5 Cube
PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 7:40 pm 
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I love 3D printing! This puzzle came out perfect, and I cannot wait to put stickers on it. After my first 3D printing experiment came out somewhat as a flop, I must say that I couldn't be more pleased with this puzzle. Its a pillowed Eastsheen 5x5x5. Enjoy! :D I have to wait a few days to sticker it, otherwise the curing process of the resin will make bubbles. :D


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 Post subject: Re: New Cube: Pillowed 5x5x5 Cube
PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 7:55 pm 
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Very very nice job. :D Pillowed cubes are awesome.


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 Post subject: Re: New Cube: Pillowed 5x5x5 Cube
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 Post subject: Re: New Cube: Pillowed 5x5x5 Cube
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That looks cool!

BTW, how long do you typically wait until you can put stickers on your cast pieces? I've been experimenting, and I've found that it takes somewhere between 3 and 5 weeks to avoid bubbles...
There's got to be a better way.


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 Post subject: Re: New Cube: Pillowed 5x5x5 Cube
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I have a furnace room in my apt. in there its around 110 degrees at all times. I have only done this with my Teraminx so far, but when I left it in there for 48 hours, I hardly got any air bubbles on it. I've left the second Teraminx in there for 72 hours so far with no intention of taking it out for at least 4 more days. that should help fully cure everything and stop air bubbles

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 Post subject: Re: New Cube: Pillowed 5x5x5 Cube
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Looks cool! Did you print entire cubies or just extensions to glue over the original Eastsheen

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 Post subject: Re: New Cube: Pillowed 5x5x5 Cube
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Drewseph wrote:
I have a furnace room in my apt. in there its around 110 degrees at all times. I have only done this with my Teraminx so far, but when I left it in there for 48 hours, I hardly got any air bubbles on it. I've left the second Teraminx in there for 72 hours so far with no intention of taking it out for at least 4 more days. that should help fully cure everything and stop air bubbles

The idea of leaving a Teraminx near a furnace should frighten anyone who has seen plastic melt. Doubly so for someone who put in all the hours to cast each piece! You, sir, are daring. ;)

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 Post subject: Re: New Cube: Pillowed 5x5x5 Cube
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I assume you don't plan on selling it?

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 Post subject: Re: New Cube: Pillowed 5x5x5 Cube
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Every time I look there's a new great looking printed puzzle and this is one of the very neatest.

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 Post subject: Re: New Cube: Pillowed 5x5x5 Cube
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DLitwin wrote:
Drewseph wrote:
I have a furnace room in my apt. in there its around 110 degrees at all times. I have only done this with my Teraminx so far, but when I left it in there for 48 hours, I hardly got any air bubbles on it. I've left the second Teraminx in there for 72 hours so far with no intention of taking it out for at least 4 more days. that should help fully cure everything and stop air bubbles

The idea of leaving a Teraminx near a furnace should frighten anyone who has seen plastic melt. Doubly so for someone who put in all the hours to cast each piece! You, sir, are daring. ;)

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Just FYI, cast pieces are generally made of thermosetting plastics that don't melt. They benefit from external heat, but it should only be applied after the internally generated heat has thoroughly dissipated. (If external heat is applied too soon, the castings can crack.)

Applying external heat to drive out gasses is often called "flashing off." The ideal temperature is between 100 and 140 degrees (Fahrenheit), so Dreweph's procedure is excellent and not particularly risky. No kidding.

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 Post subject: Re: New Cube: Pillowed 5x5x5 Cube
PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 4:24 am 
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Cool! Looks perfect... I've gotta try this 3d printing thingy some time.


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 Post subject: Re: New Cube: Pillowed 5x5x5 Cube
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OH.
MY.
GOD.

I want it!!! I love that soooo much!

So if you DO sell, or if you plan on making more, I'm *1000%* into getting a 5x5 pillowed cube.

Holy crap!

If you're interested in selling, PM me PLEASE!!

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 Post subject: Re: New Cube: Pillowed 5x5x5 Cube
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Thats really neat! Its like a Super Pillowed cube. Great work, Can't wait for stickers


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 Post subject: Re: New Cube: Pillowed 5x5x5 Cube
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Thanks for all the comments. To answer a few questions... I printed the pieces so that once casted, all I had to do was glue them onto the exterior pieces of the 5x5x5. This made it very simple to assemble once the pieces were made. Also, I do plan on selling this once its stickered so those of you who are interested, please be on the look out. I will post a new topic when I sell it. Also, heating casted pieces can help. I would have done it here, except I already have the pieces glued onto the regular 5x5x5, and unlike cast parts those main 5x5 pieces will melt in the oven, so I'll just have to wait it out. :D


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 Post subject: Re: New Cube: Pillowed 5x5x5 Cube
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Before I tested the furnace I placed my eastsheen cubes in the furnace room. it got warm, but nowhere near melting! so you should be fine with putting them iun a warm location. an oven at 110 degrees should be alright, but its still going to take several days

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 Post subject: Re: New Cube: Pillowed 5x5x5 Cube
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I am really impressed by this.
I love it, as I really like the look of pillowed 7x7x7.
Well done!
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 Post subject: Re: New Cube: Pillowed 5x5x5 Cube
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Very nice.

It seems like new puzzles, or variations of some kinda are popping up much more frequently than in the past. It really goes to show you how much the forum is evolving and growing upon itself.

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 Post subject: Re: New Cube: Pillowed 5x5x5 Cube
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Stickers????

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Love it.

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 Post subject: Re: New Cube: Pillowed 5x5x5 Cube
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Just wanted to compliment you on this cool mod! A pillowed 5x5x5 looks SOOOOOOOOOO awesome

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 Post subject: Re: New Cube: Pillowed 5x5x5 Cube
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So I think you're next project should be an optimized pillowed 4x4x4. I'd go at it myself, but I have no knowledge of cad.
[I'm working on it!]


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 Post subject: Re: New Cube: Pillowed 5x5x5 Cube
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I'll be stickering it this weekend, And I assume I'll put it up for sale possibly as early as Sunday.

Politely Owned: In the process of designing this puzzle, I also designed an eastsheen 4x4x4 version. If you would like, I could let you have these files. I would have had them printed, but I didn't and still don't have the money to have it done. I'd love to see the design printed and built, so if you would like, I could email you the files so you could build it. If you would prefer to design it yourself, by all means go for it. But I just thought I'd throw the idea out there. :D


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 Post subject: Re: New Cube: Pillowed 5x5x5 Cube
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A few people asked me if I could explain my pillowing process and exactly how I do it in CAD. I'll try and be specific with these pictures, but you should get the idea. I don't know if all design programs have these features, but they are pretty elementary and should be commonly known.


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 Post subject: Re: New Cube: Pillowed 5x5x5 Cube
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I can't wait!!!

Will this be an e-bay auction as early as Sunday?

I'm very excited about this puzzle :)

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This looks very nice. how about a pillowed 4x4x4, 3x3x3, even a 2x2x2!? that would be sweet.

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super_genius wrote:
This looks very nice. how about a pillowed 4x4x4, 3x3x3, even a 2x2x2!? that would be sweet.

I am working on a 2x2x2 ;)

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 Post subject: Re: New Cube: Pillowed 5x5x5 Cube
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When I say I wanna see a pillowed 4x4, I mean to say that I want the internals to be taking advantage of the pillowing, not just a superficial pillow.


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 Post subject: Re: New Cube: Pillowed 5x5x5 Cube
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So did you get stickers for this yet? Are you still planning on putting it up for auction at some point? AHH!! hahaha

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i hope verdes sees this and applies this to the 5x5, with the internal mechanism being like the 7x7, then basically it would own every other 5x5,even its unpillowed 5x5 v-cube

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Politely Owned wrote:
When I say I wanna see a pillowed 4x4, I mean to say that I want the internals to be taking advantage of the pillowing, not just a superficial pillow.

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i hope verdes sees this and applies this to the 5x5, with the internal mechanism being like the 7x7, then basically it would own every other 5x5,even its unpillowed 5x5 v-cube

Pillowing doesn't change the mechanism. Both the 7x7x7 and 5x5x5 have the same design. The pillowing is needed on the 7x7x7 because of the number of layers and the need to hold the corner in. You can make a non-pillowed 7x7x7 but the edge slices get very thick which doesn't look as nice. Take a look at the 6x6x6 and you will see this is the case (although it is a small enough difference on the 6x6x6 that you generally don't notice).
So pillowing a puzzle doesn't make it better functionally, it just changes the look. In fact, one might argue it makes it worse because as you approach spherical it gets harder to align the puzzle slices. With flat faces you can feel when it is out of alignment much easier.

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 Post subject: Re: New Cube: Pillowed 5x5x5 Cube
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But is there some way that it could possibly help it?


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Politely Owned wrote:
But is there some way that it could possibly help it?


Nope. Not at all. Unless you can explain to me why a cube with cubies of uneven sizes might turn better. The pillowing is just used to mask the outer cubies being bigger than the other ones. The 6x6 in fact has this as well, but in this case the outer cubies are just a tiny bit bigger, but you can see it if you want to.

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 Post subject: Re: New Cube: Pillowed 5x5x5 Cube
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So are there any updates with this puzzle? Do you have stickers yet or is it still just in it's "beta" phase?

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Well, as usual, my estimate of "Sunday," which was about 3 weeks ago, was a little bit unrealistic. Senior year of high school generally equates to zero time, and stickering a pillowed puzzle by hand, which is what I always do, is not exactly easy. I will sell it once it's completed, but I cannot make any guesses as to when this will be. It could be this weekend, since it's a 3-day weekend, but even that's a longshot...


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Finally finished this bad boy tonight. It came out pretty well, not my best, but still alright by my standards. Enjoy the pictures! :D


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very nice :shock:

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Wow! That looks great! Nice job on the stickers.


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Yay! looks awesome, i am waiting on my moolds to dry so i can start casting my pillowed 4x4! Great job!


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 Post subject: Re: *Stickered*: Pillowed 5x5x5 Cube
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That is an extremely nice looking puzzle. It somehow looks more pillowed now it's stickered.

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MarkSS wrote:
That is an extremely nice looking puzzle. It somehow looks more pillowed now it's stickered.


I agree. :D

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The stickers really pull the puzzle together.

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Am I the only one thinking that was a poor sticker job. you should have taken your time and cut then proporly.
for such an awesome puzzle mod that is!

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I thought it looked better without the stickers, but it isn't a puzzle until it is possible to scramble it.


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