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 Post subject: Just another ugly shape-shifting puzzle...(done!)Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:11 am

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...should be done in a few days though.

Cheers!

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EDIT: Actually, it was easier than I thought it would be to get it together. It's done, it's "jumblable", and it's smooth as silk--movement is equal to that of the "Rua" puzzle in terms of quality.

Pictures and video coming Sept. 1.

Cheers!

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 Post subject: Re: Just another ugly shape-shifting puzzle...Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:22 am

Joined: Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:08 am
Location: Williamsport, Pennsylvania
aaaahh so you did do it, that is absolutely magnificent.

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 Post subject: Re: Just another ugly shape-shifting puzzle...Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:21 am

Joined: Mon Feb 04, 2008 8:57 pm

the.drizzle, Awesome build! you seriously took my comment too personal. just because I shape shifting puzzles aren't my favorite, doesn't mean I don't love your puzzles! Don't you remember so eagerly pm'ing you to buy a toru =)

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 Post subject: Re: Just another ugly shape-shifting puzzle...Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:45 am

Joined: Fri Nov 04, 2005 12:31 am
Location: Greece, Australia, Thailand, India, Singapore.
Oceania just added another fierce competitive puzzle!!!

The truth is, your puzzles *can* remain with the shape invariant,
while still retaining some complexity. And the puzzler always has
that extra option to increase its "jumblability".

Can't wait to see this beauty when finished!
(When I saw the post's title, I smiled, because I knew there will be something special)

Pantazis

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 Post subject: Re: Just another ugly shape-shifting puzzle...Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:49 am

Joined: Thu Aug 30, 2007 7:54 am
Location: Yorkshire, UK
Shape shifters rule!

Viva la polymorph!

Fantastic. I would love to see the internals.

Great one!

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 Post subject: Re: Just another ugly shape-shifting puzzle...Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:14 am

Joined: Sun Apr 06, 2008 6:43 pm
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This is a shape shifter? It looks like it would remain symmetrical. Kinda looks like it would work like a dino cube. I can't wait to see this in action. Looks very cool.

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 Post subject: Re: Just another ugly shape-shifting puzzle...Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:29 am

Joined: Thu Aug 30, 2007 7:54 am
Location: Yorkshire, UK
flambore wrote:
This is a shape shifter?

Because of the title I kind of assumed this turned like a Dino but allowed 60 degree rather than just 120 degree turns.

I guess I may be completey off on that though!

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 Post subject: Re: Just another ugly shape-shifting puzzle...Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:31 am

Joined: Fri Oct 05, 2007 1:45 pm
flambore wrote:
This is a shape shifter? It looks like it would remain symmetrical. Kinda looks like it would work like a dino cube. I can't wait to see this in action. Looks very cool.

It isn't shape-shifting... is it? The Little/Half Chop (3.3.7) isn't and this is a physical version of that. Title is a joke I suppose.
Can't wait to see this finished, looking great. What a puzzle.

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 Post subject: Re: Just another ugly shape-shifting puzzle...Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:32 am

Joined: Tue Aug 21, 2007 9:26 pm
So.. is this the Little-Chop that I've been waiting to see for so long?

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 Post subject: Re: Just another ugly shape-shifting puzzle...Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:39 am

Joined: Wed Aug 17, 2005 8:26 pm
Location: Saratoga Springs, NY
this puzzle is not shape shifting, but it is jumblable. Partial turns will allow moves that will change the shape of the puzzle in much the same way as the Helicopter Cube, Toru, and Rua. Those moves will also allow scrambled positions that are impossible with only conventional moves, and gives the puzzle two levels of difficulty: "Challenging", and "Evil".

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 Post subject: Re: Just another ugly shape-shifting puzzle...Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:39 am

Joined: Tue Feb 26, 2008 1:22 pm
Amazing work as usual, I'm thinking of naming my baby due in October after you.

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 Post subject: Re: Just another ugly shape-shifting puzzle...Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:56 am

Joined: Sat Sep 15, 2007 1:07 pm
Location: Kaohsiung, Taiwan
Wooooow!! a real creative puzzle from 3D Prints.
sorry for i can not express myself in English very exactly.
I take that This puzzle is a "Split Dino Cube" ????
a normal Dino Cube rotate k times 120 degrees,
and this puzzle rotate k times 60 degrees and hence it changes shape.

-John Lin from Kaohsiung Taiwan
The real models are always the best approach to Shapes, Space, and Symmetry.

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 Post subject: Re: Just another ugly shape-shifting puzzle...Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 12:26 pm

Joined: Thu Jan 06, 2005 8:53 pm
Location: Los Angeles
KPG-john wrote:
Wooooow!! a real creative puzzle from 3D Prints.
sorry for i can not express myself in English very exactly.
I take that This puzzle is a "Split Dino Cube" ????
a normal Dino Cube rotate k times 120 degrees,
and this puzzle rotate k times 60 degrees and hence it changes shape.

No, this is the Little Chop. It's an edge turning deep cut puzzle.
It only allows twists of 180 degrees.

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 Post subject: Re: Just another ugly shape-shifting puzzle...Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 12:34 pm

Joined: Wed Aug 01, 2007 3:14 pm
Location: Orange County, CA
How can it have so many intersecting cuts in the center of the puzzle without using a pentultimate-esk mechanism?

And how does it turn?

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 Post subject: Re: Just another ugly shape-shifting puzzle...Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 12:40 pm

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http://users.skynet.be/gelatinbrain/App ... exa_e3.htm

For those of you who want to play with the puzzle.

I can't wait to see the mechanism! And the finished product.

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 Post subject: Re: Just another ugly shape-shifting puzzle...Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:01 pm

Joined: Sun Jul 01, 2007 4:02 pm
Location: San Diego, CA
When I saw the title i knew that this was going to be another amazing puzzle. Great job.

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 Post subject: Re: Just another ugly shape-shifting puzzle...Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:47 pm

Joined: Sun Aug 10, 2008 8:32 pm
Location: gaithersburg MD.
think of this one as a trick haus but on all sides not just 2 but i still dont see the shape changing.....?

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 Post subject: Re: Just another ugly shape-shifting puzzle...Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 3:36 pm

Joined: Sun Jun 04, 2006 10:05 am
Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA
jibjunkie405 wrote:
think of this one as a trick haus but on all sides not just 2 but i still dont see the shape changing.....?

That's a little deceiving as the trickhaus is a 2x2, while this is a brand new mechanism.

As for the shape changing, it seems that after 45 degrees or so, it should be able to turn on adjacent edges.

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 Post subject: Re: Just another ugly shape-shifting puzzle...Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:09 pm

Joined: Sun Aug 10, 2008 8:32 pm
Location: gaithersburg MD.
yes but this puzzle would limit moves to 180 degree turns. if rotated 90 degrees the puzzle has no atching lines. i still cant see the shape changing

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 Post subject: Re: Just another ugly shape-shifting puzzle...Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:29 pm

Joined: Sun Feb 17, 2008 6:25 pm
Ugh..this is an ugly shape-shifting puzzle...

j/k, truly amazing, can't wait to see a video

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 Post subject: Re: Just another ugly shape-shifting puzzle...Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:55 pm

Joined: Sun Feb 17, 2008 11:03 am
Looks very nice but, how does it work?

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 Post subject: Re: Just another ugly shape-shifting puzzle...Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:04 pm

Joined: Wed Jun 25, 2008 6:30 am
Location: Berlin, Germany
It's so ugly that I want 10 of them. I can't wait to see it finished. Amazing!

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 Post subject: Re: Just another ugly shape-shifting puzzle...Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:07 pm

Joined: Thu Nov 23, 2006 6:02 pm
Ugly. I suggest you abandon all current plans to keep working on this.

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 Post subject: Re: Just another ugly shape-shifting puzzle...Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:16 pm

Joined: Tue Feb 26, 2008 7:15 pm
i can see the shape-shifing, it turns like a dino cube, but can make 60 degree turns aswell. am i correct?

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 Post subject: Re: Just another ugly shape-shifting puzzle...Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:22 pm

Joined: Tue Mar 25, 2008 2:51 am
Location: Malibu, California
No, you're not. It's the half/little chop. Honestly, I don't see any shape-shifting though (especially since a partial turn would block any other turn).

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 Post subject: Re: Just another ugly shape-shifting puzzle...Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:58 pm

Joined: Sun Mar 11, 2007 3:11 am
Location: Oregon, USA
If you stop part way through a 180-degree turn (at roughly 45 or 135 degrees) the deep cut that runs along the primary edge being turned will align with a deep cut that runs through the other half of the puzzle. If you initiate a turn along one of these cuts then the puzzle will change shape...dramatically!

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 Post subject: Re: Just another ugly shape-shifting puzzle...Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:38 pm

Joined: Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:05 pm
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VeryWetPaint wrote:
If you stop part way through a 180-degree turn (at roughly 45 or 135 degrees) the deep cut that runs along the primary edge being turned will align with a deep cut that runs through the other half of the puzzle. If you initiate a turn along one of these cuts then the puzzle will change shape...dramatically!

Exactly! Beyond the facade, this puzzle has *ZERO* in common with a dino cube. And it's almost fully completed now too...

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 Post subject: Re: Just another ugly shape-shifting puzzle...Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:45 pm

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Location: Wyoming - USA
It kinda reminds me of a fisher 2x2 kinda thing.

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 Post subject: Re: Just another ugly shape-shifting puzzle...(done!)Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 2:37 am

Joined: Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:05 pm
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Done!

Pictures + video on Sept. 01.

Cheers!

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 Post subject: Re: Just another ugly shape-shifting puzzle...(done!)Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 4:12 am

Joined: Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:10 am
Location: Norway
This puzzle is THE BOMB! Really nice! one of my favorite puzzles is the bump cube! That is shapeshifting! I love them! <<<3 And I love you the.drizzle <<3 You are a god in puzzle building

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 Post subject: Re: Just another ugly shape-shifting puzzle...Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:30 am

Joined: Thu Aug 30, 2007 7:54 am
Location: Yorkshire, UK
VeryWetPaint wrote:
If you stop part way through a 180-degree turn (at roughly 45 or 135 degrees) the deep cut that runs along the primary edge being turned will align with a deep cut that runs through the other half of the puzzle. If you initiate a turn along one of these cuts then the puzzle will change shape...dramatically!

Whoa! I think I see what you mean, but when I looked at this at first I discounted that idea.

Can someone verify that, as these "intermediate" turns are not 45 degrees, then they will necessarily block other rotation planes, effectively "bandaging" the puzzle as well as putting it "out of shape"?

Since it has been mentioned, is a 60 degree turning Dino-type cube possible? It would be a very interesting puzzle, like a Dino but with serious orientation probems. I cannot begin to imagine how such a mechanism might work.

But however, I am now even more in awe of this "Ugly shape-shifting puzzle". Absolutely brilliant.

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 Post subject: Re: Just another ugly shape-shifting puzzle...(done!)Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 10:11 am

Joined: Wed Aug 17, 2005 8:26 pm
Location: Saratoga Springs, NY
I noticed something interesting with the way the puzzle is designed, or just this puzzle in general. The caps on the pieces could be printed in different colors, making it unnessesary to sticker the puzzle. (the LC pieces only have on color on them, so this would work for any version of this puzzle.)

The Jumblable moves occur when the puzzle is turned 70.53 degrees. (A smiley face to the person who fugures out why...)

Here is a picture of what the puzzle could look like after a couple of moves.

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 Post subject: Re: Just another ugly shape-shifting puzzle...(done!)Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 10:44 am

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Puzzlemaster42 wrote:
The Jumblable moves occur when the puzzle is turned 70.53 degrees. (A smiley face to the person who fugures out why...)

Something with the relationship of the Dihedral angle to a Tetrahedron????

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 Post subject: Re: Just another ugly shape-shifting puzzle...(done!)Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:14 pm

Joined: Sun Jul 08, 2007 7:15 pm
Seems to me that all of these rhombic dodecahedronish puzzles are that way.

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 Post subject: Re: Just another ugly shape-shifting puzzle...(done!)Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:17 pm

Joined: Mon Mar 03, 2008 5:30 pm
Location: NYC
chris the cynic wrote:
rhombic dodecahedronish puzzles

Isn't it a cube?

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 Post subject: Re: Just another ugly shape-shifting puzzle...(done!)Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:28 pm

Joined: Sun Mar 11, 2007 3:11 am
Location: Oregon, USA
Law of sines?

But, I came up with 54.74 degrees...? Oh well I've gotta' go, so I'll check my figures later!

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 Post subject: Re: Just another ugly shape-shifting puzzle...(done!)Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:09 pm

Joined: Wed Aug 01, 2007 3:14 pm
Location: Orange County, CA
I don't know if I can wait 3 more days :O

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 Post subject: Re: Just another ugly shape-shifting puzzle...(done!)Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:41 pm

Joined: Thu Aug 30, 2007 7:54 am
Location: Yorkshire, UK
2arctan(sqrt(2)/2)

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 Post subject: Re: Just another ugly shape-shifting puzzle...(done!)Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 2:34 pm

Joined: Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:05 pm
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Puzzlemaster42 wrote:
The Jumblable moves occur when the puzzle is turned 70.53 degrees. (A smiley face to the person who fugures out why...)

Ooh! I know this one! But I think I'll keep my mouth shut and let the other contestants play

In the meantime, have a teaser picture of the mechanism.
Attachment:

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 Post subject: Re: Just another ugly shape-shifting puzzle...(done!)Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 2:36 pm

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I know why...but I didn't figure it out on my own. Thus I will also keep my mouth shut

By the way, that mechanism pic is absolutely stunning :O

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 Post subject: Re: Just another ugly shape-shifting puzzle...(done!)Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 2:52 pm

Joined: Sun Jul 08, 2007 7:15 pm
dannyb21892 wrote:
chris the cynic wrote:
rhombic dodecahedronish puzzles

Isn't it a cube?

Yes, hence the "ish."

Think about how it turns. Or better yet, imagine a deep cut rhombic dodecahedron with cuts parallel to the faces. Turn that imagined puzzle into a cube (shape mod) then compare it to this.

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 Post subject: Re: Just another ugly shape-shifting puzzle...(done!)Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 2:57 pm

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the.drizzle wrote:
In the meantime, have a teaser picture of the mechanism.

Hmm. Movable shells. Nice idea.

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 Post subject: Re: Just another ugly shape-shifting puzzle...(done!)Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:43 pm

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chris the cynic wrote:
dannyb21892 wrote:
chris the cynic wrote:
rhombic dodecahedronish puzzles

Isn't it a cube?

Yes, hence the "ish."

Think about how it turns. Or better yet, imagine a deep cut rhombic dodecahedron with cuts parallel to the faces. Turn that imagined puzzle into a cube (shape mod) then compare it to this.

Oh ok! I understand.

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 Post subject: Re: Just another ugly shape-shifting puzzle...(done!)Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:51 pm

Joined: Sun Aug 12, 2007 2:15 pm
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It's alive!!!!

I would love to try this out in person!!! You could send it to me to solve it.

Its been days since I have been here, school being the main reason.

Really great job the.drizzle!!!

Now sticker it!!!!

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 Post subject: Re: Just another ugly shape-shifting puzzle...(done!)Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 4:03 pm

Joined: Thu Jan 06, 2005 8:53 pm
Location: Los Angeles
Ooh ... Mechanism pics!
This makes me happy:)

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 Post subject: Re: Just another ugly shape-shifting puzzle...(done!)Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 5:07 pm

Joined: Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:05 pm
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timselkirk wrote:
2arctan(sqrt(2)/2)

Nope, $\varphi=\acos\left(\frac{1}{3}\right)$.

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 Post subject: Re: Just another ugly shape-shifting puzzle...(done!)Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 9:41 pm

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the.drizzle wrote:
timselkirk wrote:
2arctan(sqrt(2)/2)

Nope, $\varphi=\acos\left(\frac{1}{3}\right)$.

mmm.... I love LaTeX!

Pantazis

PS. Look what you have done now... you have redifined the word "ugly" and it means something
more beautiful that the word "beautiful" itself!!!

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 Post subject: Re: Just another ugly shape-shifting puzzle...(done!)Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 10:20 pm

Joined: Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:44 pm
Location: St. Louis, MO
ugh, is this puzzle even worth a topic?

jk, its AMAZING i can't wait to see pictures

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 Post subject: Re: Just another ugly shape-shifting puzzle...(done!)Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 10:27 pm

Joined: Wed Aug 01, 2007 3:14 pm
Location: Orange County, CA
Any possibility of Early pictures?

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