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 Post subject: Tony Fisher's 6x6x6 Rhombic Dodecahedron
PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:00 pm 
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Sorry for the delay in making this but I wanted to play with the V-Cubes a bit this morning first and then I had some other stuff to do as well. I will add more photos and information to this post in a little while.

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How did I turn a 6x6x6 V-Cube into a 6x6x6 Rhombic Dodecahedron in less than a day?
When I found out that a 6x6x6 was coming out naturally I started thinking about transformations. I wanted to start one as soon as possible though the obvious difficulty was that I didn't own one. I therefore thought about what transformations I could start with out one in my possession. An obvious choice was a 6x6x6 Rhombic Dodecahedron. All I needed to start it was a few basic measurements. There was of cause ample opportunity to get them at last years Dutch Cube Day. Another factor I had to consider was whether I could disassemble a 6x6x6. I decided however that I could construct a Rhombic Dodecahedron without taking a 6x6x6 apart which made it all the better choice. So a few months ago I started making the add-on pieces. Once I ordered my V-Cubes I then made the stickers. I still had no guarantees that everything would fit because you really need to test stuff. The puzzles couldn't have arrived at a better time for me. I spend Fridays making puzzles anyway so I made an immediate start. I think I had already removed the stickers and attacked the 6x6x6 with a hacksaw and Dremel before Thomas joke about doing the same. After a few hours I had shaved of all the edges. There were airbubbles within the white plastic so I had to fill them with resin. I had other things to do from 2.30 until 4.30 so left the resin to set. When I returned I smoothed off the resin and made the whole puzzle pretty much black. I then stuck on the extra pieces. This only took about an hour though I found that some might be fractionally big since when I tried it a few flew off. I reattached these and added stickers.
It works but maybe I should have broken in the 6x6x6 a little more. The combination of the 6x6x6 and slightly big parts makes it a bit difficult to turn. I kind of feel I should have made a 7x7x7 version but I had no way of making the parts in advance since it has a curved surface. Before anyone asks I have no immediate plans to make a 7x7x7 transformation but almost certainly will within the next year.

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 Post subject: Re: Tony Fisher's 6x6x6 Rhombic Dodecahedron
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That's both funny and impressive. :-)

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 Post subject: Re: Tony Fisher's 6x6x6 Rhombic Dodecahedron
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I felt sick when I read this thread. Well, good job I guess, but a waste of V-Cubes to me :P It looks quite strange, actually.

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 Post subject: Re: Tony Fisher's 6x6x6 Rhombic Dodecahedron
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I have not even gotten mine yet and tony is already modding them... :roll: Nice mod though! :D

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 Post subject: Re: Tony Fisher's 6x6x6 Rhombic Dodecahedron
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Just when I'm dying to 'try' and get a 5x5x5 Rhombic Dodecahedron (as no one is making them anymore)... YOU have to make a 6x6x6 version! :shock:

WOW! As expected, very nice Tony! Very Very Nice!!! 8-)

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 Post subject: Re: Tony Fisher's 6x6x6 Rhombic Dodecahedron
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That's pretty cool. Is this a first mod for the 6x6x6? Are those tips in any way functional? I have a real soft spot for this shape. It was the first shape I tried to mod with some cheap 3x3x3 cubes and made a huge mess.

I have to say.... pretty quick work.... cubes arrive at 10.00am (ish is that right?) mod complete and posted by 9pm ???????!!!!

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 Post subject: Re: Tony Fisher's 6x6x6 Rhombic Dodecahedron
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Very very amazing.

Good work as always Tony.

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 Post subject: Re: Tony Fisher's 6x6x6 Rhombic Dodecahedron
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I don't know with this one. Tony has been known to stretch the truth on occasion, but then again he's also been known to produce brilliant puzzles.

I think this is legitimate though, well done Tony!

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 Post subject: Re: Tony Fisher's 6x6x6 Rhombic Dodecahedron
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I was talking with somebody about modding the v-cubes the other day.
We agreed that you would be the first to come out with a mod :)


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 Post subject: Re: Tony Fisher's 6x6x6 Rhombic Dodecahedron
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Doesn't seem likely to be real, mostly for logistical reasons. But I suppose anything is possible.

It would, however, be possible to turn his recent 333+extended on all 6 faces puzzle into this one without too much drama...

Either way, very nice!

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 Post subject: Re: Tony Fisher's 6x6x6 Rhombic Dodecahedron
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Of course it's real. I just assume Tony was able to get a V-Cube 6 sooner than most of us. Perhaps he simply asked Panagiotis Verdes if he could have one in advance to modify. Or this is an old prototype someone decided to part with.

Besides, Tony knows we'll kick his ass if he ever pulls another stunt. :-)

edit: I'm now guessing Tony was able to borrow a V-Cube 6 from someone. And after taking exact measurements he could have molded and casted all the pieces he needed. Paint it, sticker it and than simply wait for a new V-Cube 6 to arrive so he could use the spindle.
But then he could have assembled it previously, on the other V-Cube. I'm sure he would have posted pictures of that. Hmmm... Tony, please explain. :-)

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 Post subject: Re: Tony Fisher's 6x6x6 Rhombic Dodecahedron
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It is real and is made from one of the V-Cubes I received today. All will be explained shortly.

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 Post subject: Re: Tony Fisher's 6x6x6 Rhombic Dodecahedron
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That was devilishly fast and really nice work!


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Please show the other side :)

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tattooed wrote:
That was devilishly fast and really nice work!

Indeed, and I stand corrected!

I just hope this isn't going to end up his notorious list, so that others can have a crack at this...

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Waw Tony! Very well made!

It was probably very difficult to add 2 fully functional layer on all sides!

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It can't be finished yet. Rhombic dodecahedrons cant stand on a point as shown in the first pic.

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 Post subject: Re: Tony Fisher's 6x6x6 Rhombic Dodecahedron
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Some hilarious responses here-

professorcube5x5 wrote:
It can't be finished yet. Rhombic dodecahedrons cant stand on a point as shown in the first pic.


I stood it in a mixing cup!

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I felt sick when I read this thread. Well, good job I guess, but a waste of V-Cubes to me :P It looks quite strange, actually.


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Waw Tony! Very well made!

It was probably very difficult to add 2 fully functional layer on all sides!

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I don't recall saying I added 2 fully functional layers on all sides.

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 Post subject: Re: Tony Fisher's 6x6x6 Rhombic Dodecahedron
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Tony Fisher wrote:
It works but maybe I should have broken in the 6x6x6 a little more. The combination of the 6x6x6 and slightly big parts makes it a bit difficult to turn.
If I'm interpreting this rightly, you think it would be less difficult to turn if the 6x6x6 had been broken in first but it would still be somewhat awkward due to its size. Right?

Just trying to get a 'feel' for how much of it is an unavoidable consequence of the shape and size. I imagine it takes a little fiddling just to figure out how to hold it without misaligning all those layers!

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It would be awesome to see a family portrait of 2x2 - 6x6 of Rhombic Dodecahedrons.

Eventually, Maybe a 7x7 too.

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holy mother of jesus :shock:

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Awesome work Tony.

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Good job Tony on your excellent work! I figured you would be on top of making the first modifications on these babies!

Seems like Tony is getting a sense of humor around here =D

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Looks great. Can't wait to see it in the video.

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Wow. From one angle, it looks like an uneven master dino cube xD


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 Post subject: Re: Tony Fisher's 6x6x6 Rhombic Dodecahedron
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Incredible Tony!!

I have to say, you have shown much skill to do this. As most think there was not enough time to do that, you have proven otherwise! 8-)

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Wow, that's impressive on many levels! I love the reveal. :)

Really great and sneaky work!

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 Post subject: Re: Tony Fisher's 6x6x6 Rhombic Dodecahedron
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Who'll be the first with a Crystal Pyraminx mod?

I've never really understood rhombic dodecahedrons till I saw the build pics.

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Unreal! So when are we going to see a 6x6 Fisher Cube? Tomorrow?
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Great work, it's fantastic.


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That's awesome. Amazing job on the beautiful mod, and congratulations on being the first person to successfully mod a 6x6x6!

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Seems we need a new forum for "speedmodding" :lol: :P :lol:
Very clever: a long term preparation for this instant mod.

Well done, Tony!

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 Post subject: Re: Tony Fisher's 6x6x6 Rhombic Dodecahedron
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Very cool.
If you were to make a 7x7x7, wouldn't it be kind of tricky to get extensions to stay on the pillowed surface? It would have to be very exact.

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Well, here's how I could see a Rhombic Dodecahedron 7x7 going about.

You would have to sand down each cubie so the face is entirely flat, getting rid of any curvature. Then you would have to hand sand the base of the extension pieces to match the angle. From there you would have to level all of the exterior surfaces.

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Very cool.
If you were to make a 7x7x7, wouldn't it be kind of tricky to get extensions to stay on the pillowed surface? It would have to be very exact.


Yes a 7x7x7 would be trickier. Cutting the edges to 45 degrees and adding pyramids to the faces wouldn't work. The curvature means that the 12 edge cuts would go into pieces other than just edge pieces. Plus the 7x7x7 has hollow parts and of cause you are building onto 6 x 25 curved 'centre' pieces. Without going into details you would use the curved surface to make the pieces rather than try and make something that fits onto it. If it wasn't for Cube Day rapidly approaching I might well make one but I simply don't have the time at the moment.

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Please don't feed me to it :shock:

Another Awesome Build Tony! I just wish I could afford your puzzles :cry:


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amazing :D

video! VIDEO!

p.s. for the pillowed surface couldn't you get a cubie and put putty on the bottom, then press onto pillowed surface for a mold posotive ( extending that is)


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hawk wrote:
video! VIDEO!


It's now been added.
At some stage I would like to disassemble it and remove all the internal roughness.

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I am speechless, this is just unbeliveable.

When I saw the pictures I thought that Tony must have had a 6x6x6 and modded it long ago, and posting it now. But this just shows how dedicated Tony are to modifying a twisty puzzle.

A beautiful puzzle, very good job!!! :wink:

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That is very amazing. I can't believe that you did it so fast. I looks as if you have been working on this for ages.

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I was meaning to reply to this thread for ages.
This is another fantastic proof of a work of a genius!
I totally believe that Tony is one amazing puzzle builder who reached the level, when he can start building puzzle without actually having one!
It's like Jaap writing solution without taking puzzle out of it's packeging!
Tony, you are a master of masters! There's no denying about that!
Those people who thought he had to borrow 6x6x6 to make this puzzle are wrong! He only needed to obtain parts/cube measurements from those people who already had one, that's all.
Absolutely amazing Tony. Well done!
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