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 Post subject: Mf8 8th anniversary party and HKTGF
PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:09 am 
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Yep, I'm dead! Nope, I didn't get a lot of puzzles. Yep, I drank a bit too much.

One photo from the fair, one from the GZ trip and I'm out for the night.

Drool away boys.......


Nothing to see here....move along....I'll post better photos after I regain my sanity


...or not.

Full trip report coming soon. In the mean time....

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 Post subject: Re: Mf8 8th anniversary party and HKTGF
PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 4:37 pm 
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888 is a k.o. puzzle or is made from v-cubes?

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 Post subject: Re: Mf8 8th anniversary party and HKTGF
PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 4:46 pm 
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The 8x8 isn't from v cube. It's been out for a few weeks now.


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 Post subject: Re: Mf8 8th anniversary party and HKTGF
PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 11:31 pm 
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Wait so what brand is that then?

Because [removed] just released theirs recently...


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 Post subject: Re: Mf8 8th anniversary party and HKTGF
PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 11:49 pm 
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ENCuber wrote:
Wait so what brand is that then?

Because[removed] just released theirs recently...


I believe that is the [removed] 8x8. The [removed] one Jared is referring to is this one.
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 Post subject: Re: Mf8 8th anniversary party and HKTGF
PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 2:40 am 
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These are what I got from the MF8 8th anniversary dinner.

A mini cube from Rox, a Sudoku 2x2x2 cube from SMAZ, and the TomZ+MF8 3x4x5.

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 Post subject: Re: Mf8 8th anniversary party and HKTGF
PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 1:43 pm 
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Guys I don’t think you should give brand names of 8x8s that are considered KOs.


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 Post subject: Re: Mf8 8th anniversary party and HKTGF
PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 4:20 pm 
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eye2eye wrote:
Guys I don’t think you should give brand names of 8x8s that are considered KOs.
Thanks eye2eye, you are right on point.

All 8x8x8 puzzles on the market right now are KO. I would be quite happy to see one that is not, but so far both use the patented Verdes cuts.

So no manufacturer names please, and only pictures with them removed or obscured. Context is important as well of course.

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 Post subject: Re: Mf8 8th anniversary party and HKTGF
PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 4:59 pm 
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What does not saying the brand name do? It doesn't prevent these cubes from being made or sold. It doesn't stop people from getting information about the KO cubes, they take 30 seconds to find on Google. This practice isn't even mentioned in the forum's "knockoff policy".
I can understand not linking to a site where they sell them, and other ways of trying to prevent them from being sold, but not saying the brand does nothing, especially when everyone already knows what brand we are talking about.


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 Post subject: Re: Mf8 8th anniversary party and HKTGF
PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 5:31 pm 
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The difference is that is the policy of the forum and as moderators/administrators we follow this policy. Please help make our lives easier and just don't post that information. We need to edit it out if you do. When I return home this afternoon I'll edit the official policy if that will make you feel better.

If people google names as you say, that makes it all the more important to NOT post it here. Why help in the sales of KO products? Let them find the information elsewhere.

When I posted my photo it was before I say the inside. An honest mistake. That has been fixed

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 Post subject: Re: Mf8 8th anniversary party and HKTGF
PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 5:48 pm 
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Noreg89 wrote:
What does not saying the brand name do? It doesn't prevent these cubes from being made or sold. It doesn't stop people from getting information about the KO cubes, they take 30 seconds to find on Google. This practice isn't even mentioned in the forum's "knockoff policy".
I can understand not linking to a site where they sell them, and other ways of trying to prevent them from being sold, but not saying the brand does nothing, especially when everyone already knows what brand we are talking about.
From rule #14:
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Do not advertise sites, sales or auctions for copies of puzzles that are "protected by their rightful owners"...
Naming the manufacturer isn't much different than providing a link, and is advertising. It is not explicitly stated in the short form of the rule but that rule has a link to the Knockoff Policy thread (sticky in General Puzzle Topics) wherein you will find this where I make the point directly.

So I think if you actually read the policy, this should be clear.

Our policy is not designed to keep people from buying or finding these puzzles as that is not our place nor a practical goal. It is designed to respect the original designer. Even if the gesture is completely futile from the point of view of someone knowing who makes them and how to get them, it is a the respect that gesture conveys that is important.

Please do take the time to read my post on the matter of respect.

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