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 Post subject: What puzzles would you add to official competitions?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 12:49 am 
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A couple puzzles that I would add would be the Gear Cube, a c4u 3x3x4, and a Professor Pryaminx. How about you guys ?


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 Post subject: Re: What puzzles would you add to official competitions?
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I think the Gear-Cube could be done in 2 steps with a single look each, corners and then all other pieces. It would really be a dexterity challenge much like the Rubik's Magic rather than a solving challenge.

The C4Y 3x3x4 would make a nice puzzle but the Professor's Pyraminx is too expensive a puzzle to be widely popular. Also, I doubt Uwe has the stock to meet demand and when demand goes up the amazing quality of the puzzle will probably have to go down as more molds are made to produce more.

I think the Dayan Gem II or III could make good competition puzzles.

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 Post subject: Re: What puzzles would you add to official competitions?
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Skewb makes sense.


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 Post subject: Re: What puzzles would you add to official competitions?
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Oskar's 17x17x17. Imagine the massive hands needed for finger tricking, which would have to be evolved in order to break the 1 hour solve barrier! They would have to look something like this:
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 Post subject: Re: What puzzles would you add to official competitions?
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3x3x2 and 15 puzzle. and I think "3x3x3 with feet" should be removed.

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 Post subject: Re: What puzzles would you add to official competitions?
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Yeah, that's just it. To add something, something else has to be taken away. What can be taken away???

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 Post subject: Re: What puzzles would you add to official competitions?
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Skewb & Gear Cube should be the most possible competition field I think.


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Golden Cube (of course!).

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 Post subject: Re: What puzzles would you add to official competitions?
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Probably many of you did not organized a middle size competition.
I think now there are more than enough events there.
First I would delete some events like
7x7x7 (too long to scramble, and enough big cube are there in the competition),
6x6x6 (too long to scramble, and enough big cube are there in the competition),
SQ-1 (too complicated to scramble),
Megamix (too complicated and long time to scramble),
Clock (there is no original item in the market just KOs),
Magics (too simple and too fast solution => many same result),

But of course I would add some other events like
Domino with original dots (it is long time in the market, and you can bought it now as well)
Rubik's 15 (not an easy puzzle)
Rubik's Race (exiting 2 player game)
Hungarian Rings or Babylon tower (because I would love to see a puzzle with balls in the competitions, and the HR is very easy to scramble the same)

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 Post subject: Re: What puzzles would you add to official competitions?
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X-TownCuber wrote:
and I think "3x3x3 with feet" should be removed.

Forgot to wrote, but I think the same. It is too long, and not enough "FUN" event.

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 Post subject: Re: What puzzles would you add to official competitions?
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I would love to see either the curvy copter or helicopter cube both with and without jumbling.

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 Post subject: Re: What puzzles would you add to official competitions?
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3x3x4 and Skewb are absolute must haves for competitions, I think they're perfect challenges. Pyraminx Crystal would also be a good one. Perhaps even FTOs.

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 Post subject: Re: What puzzles would you add to official competitions?
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Remove Pyraminx and add Skewb instead.

Master Skewb instead of FTO.


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 Post subject: Re: What puzzles would you add to official competitions?
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katsmom wrote:
Yeah, that's just it. To add something, something else has to be taken away. What can be taken away???
Rubik's Magic - completely pointless in competitions, if you ask me, as there's no real puzzle to solve, once you've memorized the 7 moves or so to go from start to finish. It's nothing more than a flick of the wrist.

I would replace it with a "surprise puzzle" - a wierd and random puzzle which changes with each competition, and is revealed only on the day. A bit like how a different sporting event is introduced at each Olympics... :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: What puzzles would you add to official competitions?
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KelvinS wrote:
I would replace it with a "surprise puzzle" - a wierd and random puzzle which changes with each competition, and is revealed only on the day. :wink:


But then the competition would have to supply that puzzle, and potentially more than one hundred people could want to compete in it. I think that would be an awfully expensive event every time.

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 Post subject: Re: What puzzles would you add to official competitions?
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Luke wrote:
KelvinS wrote:
I would replace it with a "surprise puzzle" - a wierd and random puzzle which changes with each competition, and is revealed only on the day. :wink:
But then the competition would have to supply that puzzle, and potentially more than one hundred people could want to compete in it. I think that would be an awfully expensive event every time.

So let the manufacturers provide a few samples for each competition - it wouldn't cost them too much and would be a great way of cheap marketing/publicity, and getting more people to try it and then perhaps buy it for themselves. Win-win for everyone! :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: What puzzles would you add to official competitions?
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Skewb and 3x3x2. Those are two really simple puzzles that would make for great solving.

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 Post subject: Re: What puzzles would you add to official competitions?
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The fact that the Skewb has never been an official competition puzzle blows my mind.


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 Post subject: Re: What puzzles would you add to official competitions?
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I agree with you, I think Skewb and 3x3x2 (or 3x3x4) must be in competition.
darryl wrote:
I would love to see either the curvy copter or helicopter cube both with and without jumbling.

I really like this idea ! :)

Also, i was thinking of making an event in which we have to work in team. I thought of that because I noticed that in many sports there are events in team, so what about doing the same for puzzles ?
Maybe solving one 3x3x3 with two hands of two different persons, or doing a relay... :)


PS : i never participated in any competition, so these are just ideas of a lonely cuber at home :lol:


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There are team blindfold solves, where one competitor is blindfolded and the other tells what moves to do.

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 Post subject: Re: What puzzles would you add to official competitions?
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Andreas Nortmann wrote:
Remove Pyraminx and add Skewb instead.

Master Skewb instead of FTO.

don't remove pyraminx!! :evil: pyraminx is awesome.

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