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 Post subject: Floppy 3x3x3 ?
PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 1:10 pm 
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Hey guys,

This topic is more in a way adressed to Oskar van Deventer because on his HexBug + rubiks fence video I happened to see the Floppy 3x3x3! But I figured it had been removed from the shapeways page and there was no video or topic about it???

Help me Oskar, I've been waiting so long for this floppy 3x3x3!!

:? Greg :?

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 Post subject: Re: Floppy 3x3x3 ?
PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 1:30 pm 
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I see his Floppy 2x3x3, but I don't see a Floppy 3x3x3...
Is that what you meant?

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 Post subject: Re: Floppy 3x3x3 ?
PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 1:37 pm 
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Here it is! In the first picture!


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 Post subject: Re: Floppy 3x3x3 ?
PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 1:50 pm 
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such a cool puzzle! I really dont get why its called floppy tho.

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 Post subject: Re: Floppy 3x3x3 ?
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Doubleyou wrote:
such a cool puzzle! I really dont get why its called floppy tho.

If you had seen it's shapeways page, you'd understand.

It's more like "super floppy 3x3x3" to be honest. I'm not even really sure how it moves, it's just INSANE.

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 Post subject: Re: Floppy 3x3x3 ?
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From the pictures, I imagine that its like a 3x3 section of a 5x5 (in sense of turning)

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 Post subject: Re: Floppy 3x3x3 ?
PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 5:25 pm 
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has many puzzles that Oskar did not make the video
for example:

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 Post subject: Re: Floppy 3x3x3 ?
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theVDude wrote:
Doubleyou wrote:
such a cool puzzle! I really dont get why its called floppy tho.

If you had seen it's shapeways page, you'd understand.

It's more like "super floppy 3x3x3" to be honest. I'm not even really sure how it moves, it's just INSANE.


I did see it on shapeways :) and it has been on my wish list ever since!

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 Post subject: Re: Floppy 3x3x3 ?
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Looks like it works like a 4x4x4!!!!!!!! only a corner section though! Meaning maybe the equivalent of the floppy 2x2x2 for the 3x3x3!! OMG if this is so it's insane!

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 Post subject: Re: Floppy 3x3x3 ?
PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 9:25 pm 
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it works like a cut down 4x4x4 actually.

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 Post subject: Re: Floppy 3x3x3 ?
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elijah wrote:
it works like a cut down 4x4x4 actually.

Bravo elijah!!!! :D
Someone finally got it right! :lol: (or at least close enough)

The Floppy 3x3x3 is incredibly complicated to look at, but I believe it is isomorphic to (the same as) a 4x4x4 with the following properties:
1) One 2x2x2 corner is all bandaged together
2) The opposite (1x1x1) corner remains present on the puzzle
3) The other 6 (1x1x1) corners are all missing from the puzzle
4) The center pieces of the 3 faces surrounding the single remaining (1x1x1) corner have orientations marked, while the center pieces of the other 3 faces do not (keeping in mind that 1 of these centers on each of these other 3 faces are part of the bandaged 2x2x2 corner

This means all parities and restrictions from the normal 4x4x4 remain intact, with the extra apparent abilities to indepently swap 2 corners or rotate just 1 (but since there is only 2, one of which barely counts.... the swapping doesn't mean much). However this should mean that the Floppy 3x3x3 can reach EVERY state it can be properly assembled into, which is kind of exciting :wink: (It also simplifies the calculation of possible permutations)

Again, I'm not quite as confident about this one as some of my previous claims, so it's possible I missed something, but for now I will sign my name on this explanation :lol:

Peace,
Matt Galla

PS: Looking through some of the pictures again, I noticed that there seems to be 2 (distinct!) small blue/blue edge pieces where I was expecting blue/red (both). Oskar, if you are reading this, is that a strange glare in the pictures, a mistake, or am I not fully understanding your color scheme? Did anyone else notice this?


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 Post subject: Re: Floppy 3x3x3 ?
PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2010 5:34 am 
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Good luck with solving that :p

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