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 Post subject: E-Cubes available
PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 9:12 am 
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Does anyone want a 3x3x3 E-Cube to review?
I have models of type 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, and 0.
I am also willing to sell my 3-D printed and hand-finished models E-Cube Type 5, as I have seen people are interested in them. I will also be able to send them to you to try them out, and then you can send them back with your thoughts on them. (testing is free)

I have 6 type 5 cubes, and I was thinking of selling them for $60.00 {From $45.00(printing)+$15.00(my time and work)}
Please pm me if you are interested in buying or testing 3x3x3 E-Cubes.

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 Post subject: Re: E-Cubes available
PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 11:20 am 
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I would love to buy or to test one of your cubes. I don't know which one I should first, so I'm waiting to make that decision to see which cube the community would like to see tested most. Would the cube be snickered at all, or left blank? Or assembled for that matter.


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 Post subject: Re: E-Cubes available
PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 9:03 pm 
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I promise not to snicker at any of these cubes. :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: E-Cubes available
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Testing the cubes is free, but what about the shipping? Would the cost of shipping it back and forth be split so you pay to ship it out and they pay to ship it back? That sound fair to me.

Were you planning on keeping this offer to this forum, or would you like me to share it on the speedsoving forum aswell? I'm sure people on this forum would be better at giving tips on what to do to improve the cube (if its not already beyond improvement :) ), but a speedcuber could rate the cube for how good it is for speedsolving.

I would like to test the cubes, but I don't have a camera to do a review, and I'm not the fastest speedcuber either. I average under 30 for the 3x3. Also, are you going to allow other cubes for testing as well (such as the 4x4 and up)?


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 Post subject: Re: E-Cubes available
PostPosted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 2:45 pm 
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When will we hear back as to if we can test one?

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 Post subject: Re: E-Cubes available
PostPosted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 4:58 pm 
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I will be providing shipping information for anywhere in USA, but I will be putting them on shapeways with requests if you need them outside of America. I will have the 3x3x3 E-CUBES on shapeways in about 5 to 8 weeks in 58 mm size, and they all fit a standard 3x3x3 core.

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 Post subject: Re: E-Cubes available
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Why not 57 mm? It is the standard size for 3x3x3 cubes.

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 Post subject: Re: E-Cubes available
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I can solve in 30 or so seconds, I'm not sure how much that affects your decision. I'd like to test the type 5 and 0 if possible, and I do have a good camera to do so. If I like them in will buy them (the type 5 maybe), and wait for the other in shape ways. :)


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 Post subject: Re: E-Cubes available
PostPosted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 6:48 pm 
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BelcherBoy2000 wrote:
Why not 57 mm? It is the standard size for 3x3x3 cubes.

Making the cube larger gives you more room inside to make the mechanism without making pieces too thin in parts for a 3d printer to print. Also, even if you could make them that thin, they would be liable to break.

Really, I think 57mm is an odd size to have the cube. The cube was designed back in the 80s, so they weren't using CAD programs and it would be easier to pick a number divisible by 3 for the 3x3x3 cube. I think they picked 57 because it was close enough to a good feeling size and they most likely designed the original Rubik's Cube on graph paper which has 9 squares being exactly 57mm in length, so this size was mostly for ease of drawing out the design.

I do however think that there needs to be a standard size for the cube hardware, but he said this cube still fits the standard size core.


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 Post subject: Re: E-Cubes available
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I'm willing to test but let me know ahead of time if I have to pay return shipping. Do we need stickers? I will test whatever puzzles nobody else is testing.

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 Post subject: Re: E-Cubes available
PostPosted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 6:27 pm 
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I'd love to test any. From NJ average about 18 seconds.


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 Post subject: Re: E-Cubes available
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I would love to test any of these cubes out and see how your designs actually work. But I don't have a YouTube channel and am assuming you want a video on these cubes. :? Oh well.

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 Post subject: Re: E-Cubes available
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I would love to test a cube. I solve in about a minute. Not fast but not slow. I play with too many different puzzles to get real fast.


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 Post subject: Re: E-Cubes available
PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 1:39 pm 
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I'll test!

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 Post subject: Re: E-Cubes available
PostPosted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:26 am 
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You will need stickers and a core. I recommend maru lube.

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 Post subject: Re: E-Cubes available
PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 2:34 am 
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If I am chosen for testing, I'm moving to Oregon soon if that changes anything. Just fyi :) And does 3d printed plastic react poorly to normal silicone spray?

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 Post subject: Re: E-Cubes available
PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 2:42 am 
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Yes it gets clogged up. Even worse than Vaseline. :evil:
Maru lube works best for 3D printed puzzles.

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 Post subject: Re: E-Cubes available
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Hm okay thank goodness you mentioned that

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 Post subject: Re: E-Cubes available
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E-Cubes Designer X wrote:
... Maru lube works best for 3D printed puzzles.


I love Maru lube. CRC silicon spray is great too, but differs on the shapeways materials and surfaces. It's funny actually... A lot of people I know, say Maru lube is not good; ie, it slows down after time and leave a white dusty/flaky material inside it. Never ONCE have either happened to me.

As for the relevance to the topic: I may volunteer to review one of them, but I'm not sure to what extent I'd be reviewing. My stats about solving: https://www.worldcubeassociation.org/results/p.php?i=2008DEAN01 I'm not as competitive seeing as I use beginners method (and have since I started 7 years ago), but I don't do other puzzles competitively so I'm rather slow on those.

Here's a fun bit for you all: The Antelope Fall 2013 I had a very interesting time... I entered 2x2, and was PLANNING to use my Dayan 2x2, but had decided to have some fun. I used a keychain eastsheen 2x2 and got my personal best in an official event with it. 10.84 with a keychain 2x2. And the times on the 3x3 of that same competition were preformed on a 3d printed 3x3 I have...

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 Post subject: Re: E-Cubes available
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When would we be available to test or buy some of the cubes?


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 Post subject: Re: E-Cubes available
PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 9:22 am 
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I am currently on vacation, and I am using my laptop to finalize my solidworks files. In about a month, or less, they will be on shapeways with very little markup, and I can provide links to required hardware. Type 5 is done, and I can e-mail the stl files to anyone who wants to provide a detailed review. :D

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 Post subject: Re: E-Cubes available
PostPosted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:35 am 
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TheCubingKyle wrote:
And does 3d printed plastic react poorly to normal silicone spray?

E-Cubes Designer X wrote:
Yes it gets clogged up. Even worse than Vaseline. :evil:

I use CRC Silicone Spray on all my 3D printed SW&F puzzles (which I'd call nylon instead of plastic) and I'd say the stuff is worth its weight in gold. It can take a non-functional puzzle and turn it into an very nice turning puzzle. My Doctor Skewbs are a perfect example. They need to be broken in to turn well and with the amount of fudging in that puzzle if one simply assembled the puzzle with no lubrication you'd be lucky to ever get it to turn. CRC Silicone spray allows it to turn and after its broken in you can have a puzzle that turns 1000 times better then it could out of the box from Shapeways. If you add more spray to a broken in puzzle it can sort of gum things up a bit while the parts still have liquid on them. But with time, either through evaporation, absorption into the SW&F, or simply coming off in the players hands it will dry out again and turn just as good as it did before or even better. With a dyed puzzle the process can be a bit messy as the spray will leach out some of the dye. Set a freshly sprayed puzzle on a paper plate and you'll note the paper plate will be stained by the dye that comes off in the silicone spray. If you are turning a puzzle in this state you may end of slightly dying your fingers tips as well. It wears off but it might be a good idea to wear gloves. Just don't set the puzzle on any furniture you care about right after its been sprayed.

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 Post subject: Re: E-Cubes available
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I believe E-Cubes may have tried using silicone without disassembling his puzzle. Doing this seems to seal the plastic surfaces together (it needs to dry before it should contact any other plastics, probably why the can says not to use it on plastic surfaces)

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 Post subject: Re: E-Cubes available
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I do take them apart first, but I have still experienced problems. Any suggestions?

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 Post subject: Re: E-Cubes available
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E-Cubes Designer X wrote:
I do take them apart first, but I have still experienced problems. Any suggestions?
Are you modifying injection molded plastic parts or are you using 3D printed nylon? I don't use anything lubrication of injection molded plastic puzzles but then again I'm not a speed cuber. I've simply never had any problems with CRC silcon spray on 3D printed nylon and I've used so much at times that the parts are almost swimming, and I've added spray even after the puzzle is assembled in some cases. My Doctor Skewb for example can't be taken apart once its put together and aside from needing to be careful what you set the puzzle on while its still wet I've never had a problem.

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 Post subject: Re: E-Cubes available
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I am using 3D printed ABS plastic, and I use fused deposition modeling not SLS.
Nylon seems to have the same problems, but I use magazine paper to polish the pieces, and then wash them to remove fibers of dust.
I usually don't use nylon because of the cost, but my type 5 is nylon, and CRC silicone gummed it up, so I use Maru lube now.

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E-Cubes Designer X wrote:
I am using 3D printed ABS plastic, and I use fused deposition modeling not SLS.
Nylon seems to have the same problems, but I use magazine paper to polish the pieces, and then wash them to remove fibers of dust.
I usually don't use nylon because of the cost, but my type 5 is nylon, and CRC silicone gummed it up, so I use Maru lube now.
My experience is limited to Shapeways SW&F so I can't really comment beyond that.

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